Your attention, please, CharlesBHoff

First the president declared Marshall Law so everyone was unhappy then he assinated Ninoy Aquino. So he wife ran for presidency so there was an election but it was rigged so he won. Then we got the backing of the church and there was a rally (NO FIREARMS). But in the end he couldn't tell the army to shoot other Filipinos because he was a good man just being controlled by his evil and corrupted wife. The second one many of his "friends" told the public that he was gambling illegallly. So we got backing of the church then held a rally(NO FIREARMS). I even went to the second one.

 

So, gargob, what you are saying is that in both cases the revolution consisted of getting "the backing of the church" and holding "a rally"?? What was the church's stance on both cases?? What was the purpose of the "rally"?? How did both of these things pertain to the president and his wife?? How does a man who is known for being pushed around by his "evil and corrupted wife" become the president of an entire nation??
Some elaboration, if you please.

 

The wife(Imelda Marcos) became corrupt after he became president and the church was against them. For more information search EDSA Revolution at google.

 

You are right phoenix he might be able to miss me because he MIGHT shake on his hand and ect ect ect. BUt here is the fact with a gun you just point and pull the trigger, with a knife you have to run upp to him and stab him.

Cobra i presume that you have spoken with god on many ocasions aswell?

 

It might be possible to bribe or convince one of his bodyguards to poison him. Just one of the times I wish I was a master in persuasion. :lol: :lol:

 

gargob, I've done a little research and it has only strengthened the statements I made before about might making right. My search was a bit complicated because your post on the peaceful revolutions made it sound like the same president was involved in both cases, but this was not the case; Ferdinand Marcos was the source of corruption in the first case, and Joseph Estrada in the second.

With Marcos, the revolution began as a peaceful protest against his manipulation of the ballots and the suspected assassination of one of his rivals. The revolution gained the upper hand when the Minister of Defense took the side of the protesters along with a significant portion of the ground forces and surrounded the president's compound, forcing him to surrender. Bloodshed was averted because of the presence of the supporters but the president's resignation in this scenario was inevitable.

With Ferdinand, the government had been controlled for FIFTEEN years by the crime lords in the Phillipines. Kidnapping, extortion, protection rackets, and "illegal" gambling were common practice. Peaceful demonstrations in opposition of this state of affairs were a constant affair. The tide did not turn until Singson -- a high government official -- found out that he was going to be snubbed on a gambling deal and he squealed, dragging the whole thing up from under the table. The peaceful demonstrations reached a fever pitch and the military chief-of-staff withdrew his troops from the president's control. The president's aides left him like rats from a sinking ship and the president himself shortly resigned.

In both cases, once the dictators had lost their monopolies on the use of force they were ousted. The peaceful demonstrations were great for attracting world media and they probably would have brought down some sort of UN intervention if the country hadn't self-regulated; besides that, they were window-dressing to the power-play that was going on behind closed doors. It is always the use of force or the threat of that use that keeps a government afloat.

I'll even go so far as to make another magic prediction. Before you brought this to my attention, I knew nothing of it. I don't follow current events very avidly -- I don't own a television nor do I take any periodicals. But my prediction is this: the corruption in your country continues to this day and it is perpetrated by the military, as it has in the past. Perhaps it is not as blatantly obvious as it was under the reigns of Marcos and Estrada, but then the military has begun to learn from their mistakes -- they don't play with officials who are going to squeal and they have learned better how to bind those officials that they do play with. I believe this same sort of corruption exists within the States but we are so good at concealing it because we learned a few tricks from the British. We ourselves have worn the yoke of imperialism and so our leaders know best as to when to use the carrot and when to use the stick.

 

Sorry about that Chalupa Cobra. My English isn't that good.

 

It all depends on the situation and the person you are up against, Quil. But just realize that a knife in the hand of a person skilled with it can be just as dangerous as a person with a gun.

 

I'm going to have to side wih Phoenix on this one, Qilikatal. Training and practice make a HUGE difference in the use of firearms. If one isn't using the correct stance or isn't used to the workings of the gun they are firing they will not be very accurate with it. Give an automatic weapon to someone who is used to firing a pistol and they are going to put about 95% of the clip into the ceiling. Trigger pressure can drastically affect how one's hand moves before the bullet is fired -- bring nervousness into the equation and you have someone that can't hit the broad side of a barn. Many movies depict people being thrown backwards when they are shot as if the weight and force of a bullet or two can actually pick you off of your feet and this is simply not the case. JHP rounds and shot have stopping power simply because of their ability to deal damage to a generalized area; only heavy support weaponry can knock you off of your feet and that is only after several hits. Unless a bullet strikes and shatters an important bone or punctures a vital organ you are not going to be put out of the fight for several seconds, plenty enough time to deal a killing blow with a knife. Ever been kicked in the balls or received a nasty cut?? The pain doesn't even register for what becomes an eternity in mortal combat.

Phoenix is correct to mention that adrenaline can help the knifer and hinder the gunner. Unless you are in a speedshooting club that you regularly attend, you won't be very accurate with a gun unless you spend 3 or 4 seconds drawing your bead for EACH shot. I don't know about you but I can cover about 50 or 70 feet of open ground from a standstill in that time, probably more with adrenaline pumping through me. Hitting a stationary target is an altogether different thing from trying to hit something that is actively attempting to evade your line of fire, not to mention putting a bullet into a kill zone. Once the distance is closed a knife makes a MUCH better weapon than a gun, hence the invention of the bayonet.

 

Good times :cry: ...

 

Anyone can speak to God. It's not like there's a high probability that He's going to indicate that He's listening.

 

NO perhaps you don't understand, he (charles ) has a two way communication with god. Charles recives messages from god.

 

I think you should stop saying that it be considered blasphemy.

 

You must have had quite a case of amnesia.

Right, now the crappy joke is out of the way, let's get down to business...

Cobra, you strike me as the right wing religious sort, with only half the reasoning skills I expect...at least, you've only got half the reasoning skills of the right wing type, but you've got twice as many as the religious sort, so I'll say half and leave it at that, even though I know it isn't accurate.

1. Darkwalker is in the military, has been for quite some time, his family is in the military, has been for quite some time, and Darkwalker himself is a military policeman I believe. Thus, you'd want to hope he knows what he's talking about when it comes to the finer points of military law.

2. You didn't like Travolta in Pulp Fiction? What the fuck is wrong with you?

3. You may be right about guns and accuracy with regards to moving targets - I haven't had enough experience in this area to give a qualified opinion. Hence, I'm staying out of it, but apart from common sense (which anyone can lay claim to) what is backing up your statements? Have you personally been in a knife fight against a man with a gun?

4. I don't like religion. I think it's responsible for most of the world's problems, and people like Charles are the ones who help make those problems bigger, because there's always someone like you around who thinks they might be telling the truth. Excuse my scepticism and cynicism here, but the probability of Charles talking to God is pretty damn low. Hell, I'd make a better candidate, because everyone knows that a committed indifferentist makes for a better conversion case than even an atheist. Of course, someone will now point out that most prophets were considered crazy, yadda yadda yadda. I'd like to point out, therefore, there have been far more crazy people blabbing on about religion than there have been 'prophets'.

5. Listen to what the people with experience here are saying - Charles is one crazy, messed up motherfucker.

6. Going back to your theories on military law, too bad Odi isn't here anymore. He'd have smacked your 'arguments' into tiny pieces, and left you in awe of his tales in the military. He is one cool ranch-owning mother fucker.

7. When have you been in mortal combat?

Fuck, I don't come by for a few days and look at what happens...actually, this much activity is good. Continue please, gentlemen (or ladies, where appropriate).

 

I think we can't call Chalupa Cobra that anymore because there is a new member called cobra.

 

That depends entirely upon your point of view, religion base or indeed whether you are at all religious or not.

To me I couldn't call it blasphemy because I don't believe in God, to Qili it's not blasphemy because he just thinks it's rediculous (which most of the board is inclined to agree with), to Charles it's not blasphemy because he believes it to be true and to any other people of the same religion and same mindedness it's not blasphemous either because it coincides with their own beliefs.

Infact, it appears to be blasphemous only to religious extremists who believe that they alone have a monopoly on god - their god, the only god and one that, in my own personal view, is not worth a damn if 'god' would be able to be monopolised as such.

So it's true, it could be considered blasphemous and your concerns in all fairness should be noted . However, in all honesty I don't think it's going to make a great deal of difference to him. :lol:

PS. Go Jar!

 

Now this should clear upp any misunderstandings that might have occured:

Charles atleast think he has been talking to god.

 

It's strange that you classify me as a "right wing religious sort", Jarinor, because I consider myself anything but. I'd like to hear your definition of "right wing religious" sometime and all about the reasoning skills they do or do not possess.

I am well aware that Darkwalker is in the military. He was the first person to respond to my initial post here and he did so rather rudely in my opinion. Before responding to his inanity I pulled up that dinky little bio page that this forum gives all of us the option of filling out. That dispelled the notion that he was a world-hating pre-teen with some sort of growth retardation; instead I knew he was a grown-up "military type" with the aforementioned qualities, what with his name-calling and lack of attention to anyone's point of view but his own. Being in the military tends to give one a healthy disrespect of law except when its representatives happen to be standing about, in most cases. Exposure to the "might makes right" tenet is usually the catalyst. Just look at the veterans of any war or any graduate from a military academy -- heck, people fresh out of boot camp are usually that way.

Pulp Fiction was a great movie. I happen to dislike Travolta as an actor and you have to admit that he WAS upstaged by Samuel L. Jackson. My favorite scene in that movie was "The Watch".

I doubt anyone attending this forum has been in a gun versus knife fight, but I invite them to step forward now and voice their knowledge on this matter.

The difference between a prophet and a holy idiot are that people listen more to prophets, making them so. Beyond Charles "connection with God" (which isn't provable either way) what falsehoods has he uttered?? Also, as concerns experience and sanity, CharlesBHoff is older than anyone who's participated in this thread thus far. I simply hope that I have the level of sanity that he does when and if I attain his age; it's difficult to go sane in a mad world.

Yes, it's too bad that Odi isn't here as he might have a thrilling toe nail clipping versus tank cannon story to share with us all.

I was engaged in mortal combat yesterday. It concerned a curd of cottage cheese and my digestive tract. Supply the details yourself.

 

Such the expert. May I see your credentials, please?

Ah so. I ansah you question with anotha question, grasshoppah. What truths has he uttered?

................................ Sh..S..ssshould I laugh or cry?

OK. NOW, you're starting to play the part of the newbie with delusions of grandeur, determined to "rock to boat" as it were. You don't know Odi. You assume too much. You do know what to "assume" makes. An "ass" outta "u and me" What's funny is that you assume because CharlesBHuffandPuff is "older" that he's wiser than most here.

Well, under that same assumption, shouldn't you be giving a little more respect to Odi, Darkwalker and the like?

I was engaged in mortal combat yesterday. It concerned a curd of cottage cheese and my digestive tract. Supply the details yourself.[/quote]

 

I was cracking a joke at the expense of someone who no longer attends this forum, so SUE me!

Also, it was YOU, retard, YOU who assumed that I was assuming that CharlesBHoff was "wiser" for his many years. If you are going to quote me, at least pay attention to the words I use.