What has happened to the English Languge?

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Do you find that speaking in full, unbroken, and lacking in modern slang English, is considered outl

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  1. Muro

    Muro Well-Known Member

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    Foreigners are fully excused, as long as they are at least trying to write properly, but anyone who is too stupid and/or lazy to write properly in his mother tongue should be stabbed to death with a needle because of being a waste of organic matter. I'd say my solution is quite a noble one, seeing how it would solve the problem of overpopulation and all.
     
  2. TheDavisChanger

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    It would appear that hyperbole is the favored figure of speech on the Internet given the heavy sentences that communicating lazily and faking cancer carry.
     
  3. Peter Quincy

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    All we ask for here is intelligibiltiy and an effort at spell-checking. It doesn't matter in the end though - all the statements you make on the internet put together, no matter how eloquent you may be, are less convincing than saying the word "is" out loud.

    Also - emoticonning indicates a lack of vocabulary and should be avoided.
     
  4. Muro

    Muro Well-Known Member

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    Quoted for funny.
     
  5. Dark Elf

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    Grammar nazism always backfires in the most ironic way possible.
     
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    Emoticons and text speech

    I read a study recently indicating that the same areas in the brain activated when smiling or seeing another person smile are also activated when seeing an emoticon. When we communicate in text, there are missing contextual clues that would normally be filled in with facial expression, tone of voice, body language, and so forth. Therefore, I would argue that use of an emoticon does not necessarily indicate a lack of vocabulary. Rather, not using an emoticon, in a space with no face, deprives the reader background information derived from the vocabulary of emotions. :D

    Also, there is no one right way to speak--there are many. Each environment provides a unique set of appropriate behaviors, including systems of language. The ability to switch between these different codes is a sign of intelligence. That said, if you're only using text speech because you are unable or unwilling to spell things correctly according to the language being used, I recommend reading more books. Otherwise, when you attempt to switch into the "correctly spelled" code, you may be unable to do so and bring humiliation upon yourself.
     
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    I was looking at some job applications yesterday and more than a few of them had (and I'm not joking here) texting abbreviations in the goddamn body of the application. The "word" srsly was the only one I recall now.

    Shit went straight into the reject bin, didn't even look at the rest of it. If you're either too lazy to write out full words or are too stupid to understand a job application is not the place for them, you'd be lazy and stupid for the job too.
     
  8. C64

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    Exactly my point. Back when I was teaching, I used to see that kind of shit in my students' papers all the time . On top of that, many of them could not spell words properly without the help of a word processing program because they had become so used to relying on spell checkers that they'd never bothered to learn how to fix spelling on their own. Not that it would do them much good, since most would just click through the spell check as fast as they could, never paying attention to the words the program was substituting for their messy agglomerations of letters.

    Even so, that problem wasn't an uncorrectable one, provided the student cared enough to bother to learn how to write correctly. Many didn't, unfortunately.
     
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    Re: Emoticons and text speech

    Emoticons were first proposed by Ambrose Bierce in his essay "For Brevity and Clarity." Of course, since this is Bierce we're talking about, he was mainly proposing their usage by writers whose ability was too limited for them to get their meaning across otherwise.
     
  10. Peter Quincy

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    Re-quoted for entertaining hypocrisy. I do not consider myself a grammar fiend, just a grammar-appreciant. Perhaps when the revolution comes, I will change my vocation...

    THIS POST HAS BEEN EDITED
     
  11. Dark Elf

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    Your appreciation of grammar apparently does not extend to the proper spelling of the word.
     
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    I would change your profession, too. The revolution is coming, brother, and soon all will fall to the might of the anti-grammar.

    VIVALZ LAWL REVOLVOLUSHUN
     
  13. Grossenschwamm

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    I finally enrolled in college this year, and I intend to have perfect grammar and spelling in my english course. Since I'm 24, I also expect to be surrounded by kids fresh out of highschool who can't spell, thanks to modern conveniences like the cell phone and spell check. I will use the opportunity to outshine my classmates and make them hate me.
     
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    I salute you in your endeavor. Drop in there and shine like freshly polished Marine boots after being threatened with 12 hours of PT.


    Careful, although grammar and adherence to the rules are of paramount importance in English 101, so is the thoughts in which you enter into your paper. Although, sadly, I suspect more emphasis is placed on the grammar than the argument.
     
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    Hey, congratulations on enrolling! If you do it right, college is both a great challenge and a hell of a lot of fun.

    Older students in university classes tend to come in two varieties. The first group is composed of people who have worked hard to get the opportunity to go to college in the first place and understand what a privilege it is to be there. They are attentive, studious, positive influences in the classroom. The second group contains people with inferiority complexes who are self-conscious about being older than everyone around them, so they compensate by bloviating at length on every subject like they were teaching the class instead of the professor. As long as you're more the former sort of student than the latter, you'll do fine. What are you thinking about studying, if I may ask?

    Also, ENG 101 courses exist to help get people up to speed on their writing skills. Grammar is only half of that, though (and people who need serious help with their grammar belong in remedial classes, not 101) -- the rest of it is learning how to write in an academic tone and learning how to quickly grasp and utilize the multiple formatting styles required by various disciplines.
     
  17. Grossenschwamm

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    Because then, it'll be just like high school!

    I'm the former, by the way. I spent the years in between my graduation from primary education working and gaining the confidence to go to school. I plan on studying physics when I get my courses all squared away, and I'm sure I'll be a great student. The hardest part about going to school has always been the other students for me, as I have great anxiety around people. All I want is to fulfill my dreams of becoming a theoretical physicist, and I've got my foot in the door.
    I'm not afraid of being older than my classmates, because if anything I've got six years of life experience on them. Plus, I can buy alcohol for parties.
     
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    Because there is a possibility, slim as it may be, that he may one day run into you in real life.
     
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