TDZK

We're still in. I still have 130 "newbie" turns left. Until they disappear, noone can hurt me.

You'll be member number 4. Kinda like D'Artagnan being the 4th musketeer (only he was the good-looking one)

 

Well, if I'm D'Artagnan, and you are Porthos, the portly one, and Milo is Athos, who is Aramis?

 

Phoenix, of course! He was member number 3 and shall forever¹ be blessed for it.














¹Or until he gets blasted to atoms by a stray plasma bolt, whichever comes first

 

I feel special

 

[edit] nevermind, i think im all set up.

 

YAYAYAYAYAYAI!!!!!!!! moooooooooore people!!!!!

good go.... now we can finally invade and take over the whole darn thing...

ps Sherrif.... do change your alliance sign... the yellow star is not ver orriginal (lol)... (yeah yeah... I know... it's the standard) :wink:

 

All in good time. I have to make something worthwhile to replace it with, first.

 

you know what... I'll try to come up with something aswell... if I think it's cool... I'll send it to ya... but do make one yourself 'cause I'm not trustworthy of making something very nice (rofl) :lol: :wink:

 

Actually, I'm crap at that stuff, too. I was going to ask my wife or Milo to make it.

ATTENTION TA:HoLers
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Anyone joining TDZK and planning to join TA:HoLer alliance, make your way to a decent station as soon as possible, while you still have a lot of newbie turns left.

There is a worthwhile station at 8207. You could outfit a pretty decent trading ship there.

When you get to the station, join the alliance if you haven't already, and message me. I'll send you some creds to get yourself a decent ship.

 

Fatman told me to tell everyone that is interested in joining TA:HoLers that Milo and I are Sub-commanders. If you need to contact me in the game. My player id is 16209. Or if you are not interested in joining, you can still contact me if you like Not sure what Milo's is.

 

Ha, 8207... I'm parked somewhere right around there, Sheriff. I made my way over to the Eights so I could upgrade my Resourcer. All you TDZK pros let me know what you think of my upgrades. So far I-
-Upgraded my cargo holds to 550, with plans on expanding to around 1000 as soon as I can swing enough cash (thanks Ferret, that should help us out alot)
-UPgraded my Speed to 10 for more turns
-20 resource drones, with maybe a plan to add more, not sure about the cost/effectiveness of extra hangars.
-Jump Drive
-That one upgrade that increases effectiveness of Resource Drones

I think that's it. I want to buy that other Resource improving equipment. I forget what it's called, but it's the one that will give me +40 resourcing. The Supra I'm-Hard External Resource Defunktifier or some shit like that. I'll need to head over to another station to get that stuff. Also, I'll probably buy either a Drone Transponder or one of the Resource Purifier/Extractor thingies to fill my last equipment slot. Some advice here from the more knowledgeable would come in handy here.

I have no weapons at all. I'm counting on the 4x manuverability to be able to evade fights once my newbie turns wear out.

Oh, and Ferret, do you have any planets or stations that Aozos controls? It would be great if you could provide us with a friendly port to park our ships while we go offline. I'd hate to go to bed and wake up in a pod floating through the debris of The Evil Betty Jr. I'm sure that Commander Fatman can work out a dollar value for this, maybe a percentage of our interest recieved once we start building our holdings. A non-agression pact would be great, too, if this game has them.

PS - JOIN USSSSSSSSSSS

 

Are you playin right now? I am at 8207. In the station. Yes there are non agression pacts. I think we already have one with them not sure though. But when we go to the forums we can post on theirs as well. Don't know about the planet.

 

Well there is a first time for everything... INCLUDING DIEING!!! Dang it

 

WE don't have a NAP with you yet, but I'm withdrawing one we never use. It'll take 3 days, but after that we can get it sorted.

As for planets - no. They're a bitch to get because everyone at the start nabbed them all for free and heavily fortified them. The only way to get them now is to conquor one off someone, and they'll most likely just try to get it back off us with a huge fleet of super-carriers. We need to be at a massively high level to get one, and it'll probably take all of us together in 12 billion credit super-siege-carriers to take one and hold it.

Oh, and Phoenix - Like I said, system 8 is hunter ground, so don't hang around the station there, as you will be podded. Didn't you read my advice post in your forum? :roll:

Milo - I'd go for 1050 cargo holds, one flak cannon for taking out drones, (but keep it set to no weapons/4x evade unless you are mine-clearing), 2 speed increases, 20 resource drones and 50 combat drones. Maybe 10 scout drones too so that you can see cloaked hunters.

Get a cloak if possible, and have the external resource module, the ore purifier module, the 'extra resourcing speed module' thing. I'm derivian, so I automatically get scanners. If you're wraith, then you automatically get the cloak, so go for the scanners instead.

That should set you back by about 200 million, but last you quite a while, and if you purify ore into precious metals, and sell it at a decent rate, then you'll make your money back in about an hour, or 200 turns.

If you want to cut down the price, then go for 750 cargo, and drop the combat drones to 30. Froget the scout drones, and that'll set you back by about 90-100 million. You can make the money back in about the same time/number of turns because of the lesser cargo holds.

 

I forgot it was that system :cry:

 

Khats Klaw (16072)
Frigate
Level 0
Rating: 2/2
Credits: 10,000
Bank: 0

Hel Khat (16072)
Kitaran
Level 1
Newbie Recruit
Kills: 0
Npc Kills: 0
Deaths: 0

OK this is me I have NO IDEA what I am doing or what I should even be trying to do first (although I am thinking of buying myself a lottery tickect) I am open for any suggestions as to what to try first cause this game has so many options that frankly it scars the HELL out of me. (I need a manual)

 

there is a manual, click on help at the bottom left of the screen. on the left panel. It basically explains everything.

 

Great advice, thanks Ferret. I have a couple more questions for you, if you don't mind.

One, where would you recommend we keep our ships while we go offline? Is there a little piece of place that your alliance uses as a stronghold? Someplace where we can rest? If not, can you give some general tips on where it's best to lay low?

Two, since I'm going to be mainly resourcing right now to build up my bank account and level up, when would you say is a good time to "make the jump" into being a hunter (if at all)? Resourcing and trading are fun enough, but I can't fool myself into believing that I'll stick with the game unless I eventually get to kill someone. So what, like maybe the mid-20s? 30s? As soon as I have enough to build a decked out carrier?

I know how you feel, man. I don't even know how many of my newbie turns I wasted docking and undocking from the same station. All I can say is that it all starts to make sense after awhile. Stick with it, it's only overwhelming at first. Once you get used to it, it get's alot easier. It's still lagged and slow as hell (at least for me), but oh well.

 

Keep your ships at any station, as they can't be attacked. Leave quickly when you log on though, as hunters often hang around stations, so you don't want to dawdle!

I've actually messaged Squee about being able to build alliance ports, but even if he replies with a 'that's a good idea' it won't be implemented until the next major overhaul!

Don't hunt until you're level 20 minimum. I'd say level 25 minimum actually, or you'll just find yourself dead. I'm level 21, and still don't think I'm ready to hunt yet - you need at least 4 billion in your bank. 3 bil to spend on your ship, and 1 to regain the money.

As for the station refresh, just hit F5! :wink:

Here's my own stats:


Ferret (10698)
Derivian
Level 21
Warrant Officer One
Kills: 0
Npc Kills: 0
Deaths: 5
Credits: 2,285,392
Bank: 1,050,000,000


The Phoenix (10698)
Resourcer
Level 100
Rating: 15/8
SHD: 250/250
ARM: 250/250
POW: 100/100
EMP Dmg: 0/100

Speed: 10
Maneuver: 12
750 Total Holds

Primary: [1]Free Turret
Secondary: No Secondaries

TComp Lvl: 0
Weapon Mode: None/Evade
Drones: Combat: 30, Resource: 20

Subspace Jump Drive
Cloaking Device
Improved Processing Module
Micro Purifier Module
Scanners [Race]

 

Back with a couple of helpful links to help out us rookies.

First the links:
-A list of all the stations in the game along with what they sell, what upgrades they offer, what their alignment is, etc.
-A nifty Upgrade Calculator that helps you plan out the cost of outfitting your ship.

Anyway, that sounds like a pretty good template, Ferret. I'll probably follow that to the letter. I'm a Derivian, too, so I have the racial scanners. Thanks for the tip regarding the Eights, I'm gonna haul ass out of there before my newbie turns run out. The resourcing and trading sucks right now anyway.

Let's see, who's on TA:HoL roll now?
-Sheriff Fatman (confirmed)
-Milo aka Evil Betty (confirmed)
-Phoenix aka Fire Sword(confirmed ??? haven't checked yet)
-CTofDiscord aka Mr.Coffee (pending, he's gonna join up shortly)
-Qilikatal aka Joseph Porta (pending, gonna learn to play first)
-Hel Khat (pending, also wants to learn to play first)
-retard (pending? sounded kind of non-commital, please join us)

Is that about right? I need to check out our alliance details to see who's joined up, it's just the lag that scares me. I guess I'll login and click the alliance page, go eat some dinner and watch a movie; Hopefully it will have loaded up by then. For all you who want to learn stuff before joining, don't bother. Join the HoLers now and get your ship upgraded a little before you go out learning. This way, you'll maximize profits and experience while still under your newbie shield. I ended up spending almost all the money I made during my "safe" period upgrading my ship. Now I only have 100 or so newbie turns left before I'm fresh meat. If you could start out with a level 50 ship like the one I have now, you'll be making decent money in no time.