So, like what's been, like going down and stuff, yo?

I know this is a little off topic but I need to tell you all something...

A long time ago during my college years I was told by a fellow student that a "cool" game called... UNREAL had just come out... Intrigued I went out right aweay and bought this title, Little did I know what hell I had in store by playing this game... when i first played it took me but a second to understand the game really well.. a little to well... after I figured it out I saw an Icon called "Multiplayer" thats when it all my college dreams went down the toilet... I played and played and played I played for 4 days straight never to eat or sleep... I passed out after i woke up hunger hit me like a crude smack on the face... so I went to Arbys (cause they have that 5 roast beef for 5$) and I took my stratgy guide with me... After reading it through and spending 25$ on food and drink... I found a little section in the back of the book called... "Unreal Editor" I read the whole thing 20 times at least till i got it all down then... the modding began.... Now it may not sound like a bad thing but... after spending 2 weeks makeing a lv no! a whole new game to Unreal called "Creek Moore" It was really tough but sleepless days and night (and more arbys) helped complete this in almost record time... so I took it online and tested it... It had its up and downs... more people prefered Deathmatch over coop... so I went and made the best deathmatch lv I ever could.... It took me about 2 months to get it PERFECT!!!! I detailed it to the highest skycraper to the streetlight glare to the fog breath you get on a cold night... it was a hit and manypeople wanted this unamed lv for download (which I never offered) so one day I woke up and decided to play this lv.... Then and only then I knew when my computer said error... I knew it could be only one thing "Hackers" my god it was horrible al those days wasted for what a stupid game... I thought my life was ruined until i got more money and went back to college and eaned my degree in programming (basic, Shitty) and thats it .... now you all know my secret oh wait you don't know Im batma.... i mean uhh die insolent fools!!!!!! :x


(all the above is a true story except the batman part...)

 

Cool story Mallard, I mean Drake. May every person find that much energy, drive, and passion for one thing. It's that passion that causes people to fall in love and marry, invent new things, lead others to prosperity, breathe new ideas into life, and pose nude for magazines.

I dunno. I personally like a freshly mowed pasture on which to graze.

 

There's more than one duck hunter on this site too.

 

uhhhhhh, if you dont have to hunt for food, then why bother? the fun of it? great. people used to hunt condors too.

 

It wasn't canceled, I couldn't go. Professional players play in any weather (ie: snow, rain etc) and high school plays unless there's lightning. But I couldn't go because I didn't have anything to drive/a ride.

 

Don't say: your cute tricycle broke right?

 

Just by hearing that I can tell your a liberal. You ever held a gun? Hunting is not all for food , mainly as sport. Of course you would'nt understand that. There's nothing more fun than shooting a gator.

 

fuck that noise. i've held plenty of guns, i've shot plenty of targets, stationary and moving. but why the fuck do you need to KILL? and every time you go bashing liberals think about this : jesus was a socialist.

<edit> and look at my avatar! i AM an ornate flintlock for fuck's sake! :roll:

 

Retard , help me out here and tell him the reason for hunting.

 

he cant because there is no real reason other than you're to lazy to set up your own rifle range, and go for walks in the woods. they can be seperate activities you know.

 

I have Two very annoying southern cuz's in W.V. (West Virginia)and they go hunting all the time but, its mostly for deer.They also like to eat deer meat which is very good with A1. (even ice cream is good with A1) But shooting gators? That croc hunter dude loves crocs and gators... you should be careful those gators are his f*ck toys. And I say that because he says every animal is "Beautiful" or "Gorgeous". Although, I personally think his daughter is part croc.

But none the less shooting guns is fun its just I prefer people than animals... animals don't have any money.

 

Just dropping in to say that there are legitimate reasons for hunting other than for food and sport. One is to thin animal populations that become dangerous to humans. Two off the top of my head are deer and wild boars. In certain areas, they overpopulate and become dangers.

I agree, though - hunting for sport seems cruel to me. But then again, I've never done it. Killing something just for the sake of stuffing it's head and putting it up on the wall just seems fucked up. I'm sure it takes skill to track prey and take a well-aimed shot, but shit... Is it that much of an accomplishment? Fight a bear with a knife, then you can rightfully say you bested it and deserve to display it's body as a trophy. Or you can seek counseling because you're insane enough to fight a bear with a knife, and even though you somehow beat it, you're still some sick knife-wielding weirdo molesting woodland creatures for no good reason.

 

may be we should go people hunting more often then, considering the major predator of people IS people.

i just realized what you said about alligators bayou... tell me what the fuck is so much fun about shooting an alligator? i've HAD alligator meat, its not that amazing. it certainly does taste a lot like chicken, only tougher and drier and without as much flavor... strike that, without flavor. o whats the point of shooting one? i saw a buncha alligators when i lived in louisianna and hey were pretty much docile and avoided humans, so whats the point of sneaking up on one and killing? is it fun to watch its body jerk when it gets shot? may be you should watch a few exectutions before you decide whether or not death can make anything fun.

considering the mechanical way we already process our livestock into meat, no one hould have to hunt. deer are beautiful creatures, in my opinion it must take a ruly un-artistic mind to see one in the forrest and ant to destroy it. i'd like to see a hunter in a fair fight with a stag, hand to hoof, antler to intestine.

 

So, Sleek Jeek, you think we should stop hunting deer altogether, right? Consider the following.

For the past several years, restrictions and regulations towards deer hunting have become more and more lax.

1. Longer seasons
2. More deer allowed to be harvested
3. Deer are now able to be taken legally over planted stands of crop (biggie in Georgia)
4. There are no more "doe days", does are now allowed to be taken every day of the hunting season.

One major influence towards the above are, guess who, automobile insurance companies. With the millions of dollars being paid to motorists who collide with deer each year, the ins. companies are very concerned with deer populations being kept in check. Edit : 1 million deer-vehicle collisions happen each year, causing an estimated 29,000 human injuries, and over 200 human deaths.

Here's a scary thought for you...

A. Deer hunting is outlawed.
B. As a direct result (which I'll prove later), deer populations soar.
.... 1. More collisions involving deer
.... 2. Farm crops are decimated
........ a. Food prices soar
.... 3. Available forage for other species dwindles
C. Deer populations suffer due to lack of forage, and ultimately crash.
D. Deer populations, suitable forage take years to re-establish
themselves.

Natural predators of deer are no longer able to keep deer populations in check. Wolves were nearly wiped out, panthers are extremely rare in the U.S., and coyotes, although they're as overpopulated as deer, aren't very effective against deer, being smaller than wolves, and not able to bring down adult deer, or even catch them. (Wolves have a lot more stamina when it comes to chasing prey over long distances, but they were almost wiped out, remember?) Coyotes nab the occasional fawn or sickened deer, that's it. They mostly catch smaller game.

In researching all the above, I actually brought something to my own attention. Humans played a part in deer populations expanding beyond control, by poisoning, trapping, and killing almost to extinction predators very effective against deer. But, Sleek Jeek, it is humans who are now responsible for trying to keep deer in check. Humans that are better educated, and more conservation minded, I think.

Well, I spent 30 minutes trying to find how many deer are harvested by hunters each year, but I couldn't find anything. Anyway, the number of deer taken in New York were 300,000 and change. Maybe gives some idea of the numbers.



But deer over-population still remains an issue. So, back off the hunters. I hunt for food. No, I don't need to hunt to survive. I enjoy the sport. I don't trophy hunt.

 

I have personally made my will and I would like to give these Items to the people of HoL who unlike my entire family deserve when I pass on...

To Jarinor: Because hes probably short on it, my food.

To Jynx: My tools. Because youll probably need them.

To Snowmane: My White cat Blizzard. Because I trust her with animals.

To Dark Elf:My Highlander Sword. Which I bought from the highlander catalog.

To DU: I leave my Computer. Because all the time it took for him to make mods.

To Milo: My DVD Collection. Because hes uhh... well I dunno. Who cares right?

To Dragoon: My Game Collection. Because he probably has more space than anyone else.

To Sleek_Jeek: My Truck. So he can cause all kinds of mayhem.

To Retard: My house. Because It will be funny to put a confederate flag in my neighborhood.

To the rest of you: I leave for you to fight over and end up killing eachother over my comic colletion. :rifle: :akimbo: :minigun: :realmad:

 

I got something in my pants that could give you a good ride. It's hard, long, and a turn on.

Drake, what gives you the impression that I'm undernourished? I don't need your stinking leftovers...what's the use by date on your tinned food anyway?

 

Jar, its not that I think your undernourished its just that I also icluded the fridge too. So you won't go undernourished with warm tinned food.

 

What I've been doing - I've been playing MMORPGs and working at my new job. Nothing single player seems to be holding my attention these days. My job's too hard and not much fun, but it pays well so I'll keep it up for now. I've been thinking a lot about becoming a teacher, but I'd have to literally take something in excess of a 50% pay cut.

Hunting - I saw a news article on fox hunting recently. That's the sport where they keep the fox population from getting dangerously high getting a posse of red-coated, champagne-swilling Hoorays together and running the fox down for hours with a pack of dogs before sending sending them in to rip it to pieces prior to its final shooting.

Well, they've been running a trial ban of it in Scotland. They now only allow fox killing to be done without all the chasing and sporty stuff. Now, they have to flush it from it's den and shoot it. Strangely, most of the people who have been resisting a ban for years by claiming it was necessary to keep the populations down with their hunts now don't turn up anymore.

I'm guessing most hunters would be the same. If someone said "Fine, we need to keep the deer populations down, but you're only allowed to kill them with hand-administered injection" there would suddenly a lot less interest in deer population levels.

I'm not saying hunting should be banned or is wrong, but I do think the argument should be on the grounds of "should we stop people shooting things for sport" instead of pretending they do it out of concern for the environment. I KNOW some creature population levels need to be controlled but is that really why most hunters go out shooting?

 

Sheriff you're back!!! :wavey: artyhat: And you even brought your All Knowing Ass with ya.

Good to have you back with all the noobs revolting as of late and all. They want human rights respected here, can you imagine?

 

Yeah, I don't pretend, and never meant to assume by my above post that deer population control was the only reason, or even the most popular reason for hunting them with various firearms and primitive weapons. The thrill of the sport is the draw. No arguments here.

And I certainly don't see anything wrong with hunting. Keeps deer pops in check, deer meat is quite valued in a lot of areas in the country, and the thrill of the track, stalk, and hunt is something that you can't get anywhere else.

Again, no. It's not the reason hunters hunt. It's not on any hunter's list. They want meat, excitement, and scoring a large set of antlers is pretty high up too. I never, repeat, never have sat in a tree stand in the freezing cold, hands froze to the cold metal of my gun, trying to stay warm and stay still, thinking, "wait, what was that cracking noise? A big buck?!!??" and actually gave thought to the harm in allowing deer to continue growing unchecked by humans. Never.

But, I ask you, why do you want to ask the question, "Should we stop people shooting things for sport?" What is it that you seek by questioning that?

By the way, welcome back. The intelligence level in any thread rises dramatically just by seeing that humble badge, o revered and fat one.