Nothing exists.

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  1. Xyle

    Xyle Member

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    How is that even remotely moral? Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." God is our creator. Are not your own creations your property? Shouldn't God's creations be consider his property? But before you answer that consider this understanding...

    My body is mine own, should I choose to sell myself, then I would and should be slave. However... "And he that stealeth a man, and selleth him, or if he be found in his hand, he shall surely be put to death." (Exodus 21:16) However, the slave trade was based on the theft of people from Africa by those who stole them from their homes and sent them across the sea. Furthermore, any black free man was subject to having his body stolen and resold into slavery by the very laws that should have protected his right to own himself. With slavery so corrupted and the laws of the slave states supporting that corruption, we proved that we could no longer be both moral and slave owners so that the whole instutition was abandon and made illegal. So we abandoned the practice and, in order to keep our children from it, called slavery evil.

    Slavery in and of itself is not evil; however, slothfulness is. When slave labor replaces every form of honest work so that those that profit from the works of others do no work themselves, they commit the sin of slothfulness. And once you live by one vice, falling into the others is that much easier.

    Now, if your parents taught you that slavery is evil or you were raised to believe such, I won't have you change you mind. Slavery is a dangerous practice and is filled with many forms of temptation so that it is best that we treat it as evil, in the same manner that a child will treats all strangers as dangerous. However, to apply the understanding that you were taught as a mere child to this out-dated practice means that you will fail to understand the adult nuances when you read about slavery from the times when it was legal.

    Now concerning God's authority. If God is the Creator, then he must have existed before that which was created. If such a being exists, then he is not bound by the physical laws of creation, instead he is the master of them because such a being would have had to have created them. From scratch. If this master of the physical laws wants you to adhere to the moral code of doing what you know is right and abstaining from that which you know is evil (what you know, not what others know), who the hell do you think you are to tell Him no? Are you mad? The most powerful being in and outside the universe and you want to tell Him how to judge those that choose evil over good? Do what you will, man, it's your eternity.

    But if such a being doesn't exist, then there is no judgement and no eternity save for the eternal sleep we call death. But why risk it?


    Note from Xyle the Author: WTF? Use of the word "Muro" in this post was not of my doing.
     
  2. ytzk

    ytzk Well-Known Member

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    Bahahaha.

    Listen, why is slothfulness evil? Seems to me that slothfulness from the other 7 billion humans would be jolly decent of them and all this productivity and industry will be the death of us.

    Ah, I forgot, old testament = opiate for egyptian slaves and new testament = opiate for roman slaves. Work is the gift of God, right? Even though toil is the curse of God too. Bah humbug. Btw, it's cute the way you're still so nervous about daring to question God's authority or character. Ngaw, he thinks he won't get into heaven if he questions his beliefs. That's quaint.

    Seriously, if there's one thing that really disgusts me, it's the way the bourgois are so smug about being so comprehensively herded. Your religious beliefs don't even apply, Xyle, it's just cultural conditioning and well-done you for being such a good little drone.
     
  3. Smuel

    Smuel Well-Known Member

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    Because we only get one life, so it's a mistake to deliberately limit ourselves by following a bunch of restrictive rules based on the made-up wishes of a made-up entity.
     
  4. wayne-scales

    wayne-scales Well-Known Member

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    Why is anyone responding? Has he given anybody any indication that he's going to think for himself and not for the Bible? If he believes in God or God 'cause he was brought up that way or whatever, he's gonna sit there and read his Bible, and whenever he comes across something that's disgusting or that doesn't make sense, he'll just justify it through the twisted reasoning he's been exhibiting all this time. Anybody who believes in anything that much can't really be talked out of it by anybody but themselves. There's probably no way he could tell you why he believes in God - no way that makes sense, at any rate - he just does; and he's probably not going to change his mind simply because it's silly and doesn't make sense: people believe silly and nonsensical things all the time - I know I do, at any rate; and ytzk and Gross definitely do. Hasn't anyone else ever had a twisted notion like this that they found it possible to defend through all these mad interpretations and playing with words, and then just realised it was bullshit, later? There's no point in engaging him; if he can take the stuff that makes sense as evidence, the stuff that doesn't makes sense as evidence, the fact that people believe the same he does as evidence, and the fact that people don't believe what he does as evidence, there isn't really any evidence that he thinks contradicts what he believes.
     
  5. Jojobobo

    Jojobobo Well-Known Member

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    Honestly? I don't know, all I see is this thread growing like a tumour on this forum because of Xyle just like The Truth (As I See It) thread; I lost interest pages ago.
     
  6. TheDavisChanger

    TheDavisChanger Well-Known Member

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    God Almighty

    On the one hand, it's been a bonnie good exercise in substituting "Muro" for "G-O-D."

    Wait a tic! This isn't an exercise at all! I thought everybody was being clever with this "Let's type 'Muro' when we mean 'G-o-d' " business, but that isn't the case.
    One person has been clever and made the substitution automatic.
     
  7. Jojobobo

    Jojobobo Well-Known Member

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    Good God, it's true. That'll really confuse the occaisonal spaniard who peruses the site; they'll think we're all wall fanatics.
     
  8. Grossenschwamm

    Grossenschwamm Well-Known Member

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    Why risk it? Well, it's fairly simple;

    My name's Kal El and I come from Krypton.
    I'm the Man of Steel; Guess what Lois puts her lips on.
    I'm faster than light. You wanna test that fact?
    I'll move so fast I'll go back in time and turn your daddy black.
    Yeah, that didn't quite rhyme, but it doesn't really matter;
    I remove stains from concrete with the pressure from my bladder.
    My arch nemesis torments me with machines
    And flaunts my greatest weakness; Tiny space rocks that are green.
    I'm also weak to magic, but so's everyone else.
    That's like being weak to an iron falling from the top shelf.
    There's no need for a reply, cause I already know your question;
    "Fool, why you just start rappin'?" To shut up is my suggestion.
     
  9. Arthgon

    Arthgon Well-Known Member

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    *sigh* And...here we go again. Why is Xyle derailing the thread into the depths of a delicate topic like religion again?

    @Xyle I mean. Everyone have his/her own view of their religion. Be it Christianity or Islam, et al. Why are you trying to convince that other people views are not the right one?
     
  10. Smuel

    Smuel Well-Known Member

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    The title of the thread is "Nothing exists". For once, religion is arguably relevant to the topic.
     
  11. Arthgon

    Arthgon Well-Known Member

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    Yeah. You are right. I must have mixed up the threads again. There was another thread that almost was about religion again.
     
  12. Zanza

    Zanza Well-Known Member

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    Yes. It is true there was another thread that was similar. You must have mixed them up again. For once religion is arguably relevant to the topic.
     
  13. Smuel

    Smuel Well-Known Member

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    Oops. I suppose it was inevitable that the AI would slip up eventually. Well, I might as well come clean. Zanza is actually a chat bot that I've been developing over the last few years. He just takes random phrases that others have written, and then constructs something funny using a few simple rules. But this morning I accidentally dropped one of the humour tables from the database, and he posted before I could restore it from backup. Sorry about that.
     
  14. Zanza

    Zanza Well-Known Member

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    I must be your new target for trolling? I don't falter so easily unfortunately for you :(
     
  15. Grossenschwamm

    Grossenschwamm Well-Known Member

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    It's not the first time Zanza mocked somebody in a post in this particular way. I'm just surprised this is the first time Smuel commented on it, considering he was there each time.
    Meh. Gonna go punch my way into heaven.
     
  16. ytzk

    ytzk Well-Known Member

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    That didn't work for King Monkey, Gross.

    Even after he'd stolen the Emporer of Heaven's magic peaches, terrorised the fairy-maidens and tried to take heaven by force, Tatthathaga buddha dropped a mountain on his head to teach him patience.

    Also, @Smuel, thy mother, English!
     
  17. Smuel

    Smuel Well-Known Member

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    I think I finally get that line - you're saying "your mom", aren't you.

    It's the "English" on the end that confused me before - I kept trying to parse it as "your mother tongue is English" and thought it was a comment on my grammar. But no, you're just making a "your mom" joke. I was overthinking it.

    Anyway, as you can see, the Zanza bot is back to normal now. Enjoy.
     
  18. TheDavisChanger

    TheDavisChanger Well-Known Member

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    I don't even know what's going on on this page. It seems like it's nothing but trolls, goats, and trolls that are also goats.
    A trolling of Arthgon: Troll eats goat.
    A champion aiding Arthgon: Troll eats troll? I wasn't even sure it was a troll until...
    The musings of a butt-hurt troll: Troll is goat?

    Then there is
    ???
    Shakespearean troll? Troll eats troll?
    Troll is goat?

    I don't think I have it all quite figured out, but I'm pretty sure I've done some good here. Even if I haven't, at least I got to type some words on the Internet.
     
  19. Smuel

    Smuel Well-Known Member

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    I've said before that the word "troll" is over-used around here, but that post sets a new record.
     
  20. Xyle

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    Riposte - "a quick, sharp return in speech or action; counterstroke"
     
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