Minor Things That Bug Us

Peter: Grab the free beta pdf of Pathfinder from http://www.paizo.com and have a look. My group has loved it so far, and coming from Paizo, you know the quality is brilliant.

 

Uni-FREAKING-versity.

It's a bloody institute of learning. THEN TEACH ME SOMETHING ABOUT THE NEW SYSTEM YOU INSTALLED THE OTHER DAY?

And what about actually telling us about stuff that's changed? You know, so that we don't freaking fall behind??

If I actually knew what's happening, why would I ask you about it? Of course I don't freaking know! That's why I'm asking!

grrrrreeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRGH!!

*phew*
I feel better now.
Thanks, Xiao, for starting this thread.

 

I don't understand this. I've played bout 3.5 and 4.0, and can see/feel very little difference between them. Why do so many people bitch about 4.0?

 

*choke gasp choke* DUDE! D&D 4th Edition is just tabletop WoW! There are two reasons why this is EPICALLY FUCKING WRONG.

Reason the First: It's been done already, and much, much better than Wizards did it.

Reason the Second: It's fucking TABLETOP WORLD OF WARCRAFT!!!! :-x

 

Gripe 1
People who ask questions rhetorically without pretense;
"What's the difference?"
Don't ask a fucking question of you're not expecting the answer.
Gripe 2
Suburban gangs;
Dear God, if the "streets" you grew up on are named after people, places, or things, you're not fucking hardcore. Also, you get an allowance from your upper-middle class parents. Grow up.
Gripe 3
Twilight
The male protagonist is a fucking pedophile. You were turned at 17 and now you're hundreds of years old, going out with girl after girl after girl, all aged 17. That's sick. I guess those kinds of things make sense when the book is written by a mormon.

 

How about vampire-ophilia in general? The undead are not sexy, OK?

Leave it to conflicted females to desire someone cold-blooded, aloof, and palid.

 

Undead = UNsexy
Demons = Can be sexy, but rarely in their natural form
Elves = If Orlando Bloom is anything like the standard, YUMsexy
Dwarves = No.

 

And with that, I offer another entry: Orlando Bloom.

 

But they're pre-built for your height!

 

OB is pretty minor, isn't he?

 

He hasn't quite reached major status yet, but I'll let you know when he does. He's a steady increase so far.

 

Eh. Orlando Bloom just tries too hard to be Johnny Depp.

 

Despite your having provided answers, they fail to be explainative. Please explain with more detail. Gross, Gripe #1 wasn't a reference to me, was it?

 

Hokay, I'll try, but I'm almost incoherent with exhaustion and can't make out the screen very well so forgive any and all fuckuops in this post. (I have a feling there'll be a few)

Xiao's Reasons For Hating 4e (Highly Abridged Version

Reason the First: There used to be these schools of magic - Enchantment, Divination, and Illusion. Where have they gone?

Reason the Second: Where are my Barbarians, Bards, and Monks? Barbarian screaming frenzies are epic, Bards are more useful than many people think (and get some encounter-breaking spells, if used wisely), and Monks are just awesome.

Reason the Third: Paladins of non-lawful alignments. NO. FUCKING NO. The entire point of being a Paladin is that, while you get some awesome abilities, you are forced into a very rigid set of oaths which must be obeyed in order to keep said abilities. I am not fond of Chaotic and Unaligned Paladins. In fact, every C/U Paladin I have come across so far is bat-shit fucking insane. (And Lawful Good doesn't have to mean Lawful Stupid. In fact, LG only equals LS when the player is retarded or doesn't really want to be playing LG.)

Reason the Fourth: WHERE ARE MY GODDAMN DRUIDS?!?! *ahem* I'm not even a big druid fan, but one of my players is, and there's nothing in 4E that comes even close to emulating the wildnerness awesome that is a druid.

Reason the Fifth: Dragonborn, Eladrin and Tieflings. We do not need dragons with tits, we do not need yet another breed of mother-fucking elves, and if you're gonna include Tieflings you're kinda oblaiged to include Aasimar as well. Tieflings are rapidly become the Drow of 4e. This is not cool.

Reason the Sixth: Between me, my new DM, and the other players in my current group, we have well over $5,000 worth of 3.0 and 3.5 books. Wizards has outright said that there is not now nor will there ever be support for those wanting to convert from one edition to another. We have too much cool stuff in 3.5 to want to move to a whole new edition which will never, ever support it.

Reason the Seventh: Pathfinder. Nuff said.

Reason the Eighth: Buying the book doesn't even get you everything you need. You ever want errata or certain rules or something, you have to pay a monthly subscription to D&D Insider. Do NOT market a fucking book that people have to pay for twice to get full use of it. That's not right.

There. It's bloody midnight, my body clock is now thoroughly reset to daytime, I go sleep now.

 

The fact that there are no more bards is why I stopped playing D&D when everyone converted to 4e around here.

Denerik will always be my favourite character I have ever roleplayed. +46 to bluff skill at level 7 meant I could stab the ambassador in front of the court, say "I didn't do it" and everyone would believe me.

Add to that Nystul's Magical Aura, Disguise Self, Suggestion, and Gaes he made the perfect con man. Human male making all the masterwork items he purchased into +1 or +2 weapons and selling them to various vendors and mages for cheap while disguised as an elven female.

Lastly he obtained the fiend blooded prestige class and gained the ability to sing fireballs! Thought my group always made me say "Goodness, gracious, great balls of fire!" everytime I wanted to cast one...

 

So some more additions...

People who ask for advice then do exactly what you advised them not to.

Safety propaganda.

Realizing you have to pee 5 minutes into a 2 hour helicopter flight.

 

As is sexual safety, or what?

 

As in giant posters and banners that say things like, "Safety has no quitting time" or "Safety is not an accident." If you ever do any blue-collar work I'm sure you'll see them.

 

- Companies coming out with new versions of old products that are supposed to be "better" than what was previously available. I'm looking your way Microsoft, and WotC, since we're on the topic. The newer Vampire storyline is cluttered crap. Masquerade was structured very well, and to date, no clan or class or bloodline has come within spitting distance of the level of awsomeness that the Lasombra had in VTM.

- People/business insisting on fixing things that weren't broken to begin with....oh wait that's Microsoft again.

- Fat people who complain about being fat.