Military Tribunals

LOL!!!! I am in TEARS! over here! :grin:

 

I'm assuming that Montana is full of ignorant, inbred rednecks?

 

only half full :wink:

 

Well, then you can safely fill up the other half with dirty, scum-sucking immigrants. Whoops, did I say that?

Nah, I don't have anything against immigrants. I just have it in for...other...people...read earlier posts for the sordid details :wink:.

 

wump

call me naive, but I still think that rights should be for everyone, not just people who were born in the right place. Am I the only one who thinks that unhappiness begets terrorism?

 

we have a welfare system?
and what proper way would that be? Being transported en masse by crate? What?

 

So being born in America means that you're not a terrorist? Hmmmmm maybe bombing buildings isn't really terrorism if we do it... no that's justice... god you make me sick rex.

 

your my hero, Fatman. (I'm not being sarcastic for once)

 

specifically, Inspector Gadget's lack of awareness and Dick Dastardly's malevolancy.

 

does it really MATTER who started it? This is a war against civilians. On both sides.

 

so it's all right if it happens somewhere else?
Be it a hut in the middle of nowhere or the biggest building in the world, bombing people is wrong. Saying that innocent civilians (who have already been subjugated for years by the Taliban) deserve to be bombed for having someone among them dare to actually DO THE SAME THING to us that we've been doing to them for DECADES is both hypocritical and irrational. Punish those responsible, not those forced to live under their rule.

There is no excuse for secret trials. None.

You say yourself, rex, that they should keep basic international rights. This INCLUDES appealing death sentences. You are contradicting yourself.

Also, you say that you won't let terrorists bomb 'your' country. So it's all right as long as they do it somewhere else?

 

well now that I'm done making replies to stuff I should've been paying attention to for the last week or two, I'm gonna stop talking again.

 

Some of the events in Afghanistan are comically tragic. Don't get me wrong, I don't applaud what I'm about to describe, but it's still funny...it's just sick, at least some of you might think so...

A plane dropping food and clothing supplies dropped it on a woman and her child and killed them both...I personally found that funny, but not because I enjoy people dying. The irony of it was what appealed to me. Hang me, sue me, kill me if you want...

 

Nobody wants any underserving people to be bombed or killed, by a terrorist bomb, or an accidental American bomb. But everyone looks out for themselves, and if America is bombed by terrorists, then Americans will be angry and retaliate. The same thing would happen in any other country, if it was bombed.

No one, except the sadistic or insane, wishes death upon innocents, and i am sure that Eros Rex does not wish for your country's death, and does not want to be hurting civilians in Afghanistan. However, if Al-Queda is destoyed, then hundreds or thousands of innocent lives can be saved.

Every action requires risk, and nothing would ever happen if no one took risks. America and the world must risk hurting a few civilians to save the potential lives of thousands, worldwide.

 

OK so now it's the fault of my government that the Talaban treated it's own people like savages. "America should this, America should do that!" I am so tired of hearing all the "SUFFERING HUDDLED AND UNWASHED MASSES moaning about what. We should do for them." You know what I KNOW that Isreal is doing the right thing. The only thing YOUR people seem to understand is violence. "Make the terrorist suffer but please oh please America don't harm the innocent....." SCREW YOU that same crap washed in Veitnam and Korea and I will be damned if I listen to that swell again. If your poor oppressed people can't get up off there butts and drive out there "oppressors" Then they need to move the hell out the way until we are done doing their job for them. I will watch 50 of your "civilians" die before I lose ONE America solider to your insane madness.

Why? for the same reason your "Northern Alliance" let ARMED taliaban just walk away. We can tell the good guys from the bad guys anymore then you can! That whole area is like one big cancer of HATE. The only thing I know of that can cure cancer is a big healthy dose of RADATION if you catch my drift. Let ALLAH sort them out after that.

This may be extreme but I have been watching this "Peace process" for 30 years now and it is getting old. What Arabs need to understand is that Palastien is a DEFEATED PEOPLE that NEED PEACE to SURVIVE. It's not a RIGHT to peace nor is it something that they can Demand! If they want peace then cut the crap and lets sit down. But as long as they keep bombing to avenge this or to atone for that, I say Screw them! Isreal is right for every 1 of my people I will KILL 15 of yours until either you adjust to the terms of peace or until either you or I am no more. I am sick of you "civilians" allowing yourselves to be HUMAN SHIELDS protecting the lives of Terrorist that YOU Harbor!

Is it ok for terrorist to bomb somewhere else instead of my country? No It's not but you had better damn well believe that if you bring YOUR hatered of my country into my country, the very country that harbors your immergrants and feeds YOUR hungry BEFORE we feed our OWN; know that there will be no peace no mater where you hide. Be it behind your own "civilains" or in other countries. Don't like it then keep you bombs and your GENERATIONS of SELF Distruction to yourself. You want to kill my Civilians then I will be very happy to see an end to ALL of your Civilians! If that atitude makes you sick then I am Glad, OVER JOYED and HAPPY that you feel that way. Because until your PEOPLE can claim control over it's own culture and neeeds no more support from U.S. I could care less how you feel. I see it very clearly and I will put it in black and white for you.

Either your people are a bunch of weak willed sheep that will follow ANY leader that forces them to. In which case they should die happy in the knowledge that ANYONE is trying to liberate them. OR they are a group of hate filled murderers who will lie about anything and accept any lie told them as long as the end result is death. (Isreal, England, India, U.S. or there own countrymen, as long as they are human beings that have blood to spill.)

Either way they will get no pity from me until I can see they they are not playing the "poor pity me" card and are trying to END the violence. Not let armed terrorist walk away and keep their guns.

We are at war and I for one want to see us win this war totally and if that means an end to the exsistance of countries like Iran and Iraq. OH WELL, there leaders had peace but wanted a war that they and there people KNEW FOR A FACT they could not win. Yet it's still supported by enough of them to cause riots in the streets. "these rioting civilians" want war so bad? I say deal it to them in spades.

If this makes you sick Etalis Craftlord then I have done my job well.

 

so uhhh what is this thread all about because i do not feel like reading it all :smile:

 

It started out talking asking if you thought Military Tribunals were fair. They have been fair in every other war American's have been in but for some reason some people think that because this might involve some of Allah's favored they should be given special consideration.

I tend to disagee with thought of treating POW's like American citizen's call me crazy that way :wink:

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Eros Rex on 2001-12-16 20:45 ]</font>

 

Psycho post Eros...

Yeah, POW's shouldn't be given the rights of American citizens, but they should have some rights...

 

POW is different altogether. they are prisoners. not refuges.

but really its a good thing that you dont control power there eros. nuking the place. not only bad for the enemy but bad for america. you would lose every allie right away.

terrorists are dependant on what side your looking from. some people call them holy men and freedom fighters or maybe sanctions. thats what its all about. religions just fucked. its gonna kill us all one day.

guess im the only one who didnt care when the wtc was bombed. just another american and your all so very far away. hell i dont even know if you guys are real all the way over there.

get into other peoples afairs then you gotta be ready for for them to get into yours. the good and the bad and stop whinning about how you were hard done by and dont deserve it.

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My only point with the radiation comment was the fact that we have the ability. I would not want to do to any other country what we did to Japan. But the undeniable fact of the matter is that now days Japan is one of our strongest allies. When they SUED for peace they followed the terms of that peace honorably they did not encourage there kids to bomb U.S. or to try and continue in a war that they COULD NOT win.

Today they are a soveriegn country with the worlds 2nd largest economy! Do you think that Palastinians would look at that and get some inspiration?????? NO, OH NO ALLAH Forbid!! They must bomb and kill to the very last no matter what. Some say it's just a few "Bad" terrorist that are making things bad for everyone. I say it's a culture that children are raised in and given no other choice but to believe. Until they get it in there head that until they truly want peace there will be NO PEACE they will continue to raise killers.

As for whining I am not whining I don't need to. I am confident in my countries ablity to defend itself. So we mess around in there affairs? Well maybe if they would stop BEGGING U.S. for help all the time and raised leaders that care more about their people then about some STUPID Jihad. Maybe then we could AFFORD to leave them alone. But as long as any of them feel that violence and covert "hidden war" against my country is the salvation and answer to all of their prays I say stay in their face and REALLY give them something to pray about.

And let's not lay this at my countries doorstep, let's not forget that this is a region that has been troubled since before the birth of Christ! They have always had an "Outside oppressor" to focus their hatered and blame on. That is why I say for there to be a change THE PEOPLE of that area must WANT a change. Only they can DEMAND an end to this violence. I will say another thing; while America is the world power this is the very best time for them to do it. No other world power would have shown the restraint that we have thus far.

They need to SUE for peace ACCEPT the terms and get on with their lives! This endless pursuit of death does no one any favors. I am sure Japan did not like the "Terms" of it's original peace agreement. But they "PULLED TOGETHER" as a people accepted the fact and movied on to become one of the worlds greatest economic powers!

But not over there over there they don't see human beings in each others eyes, they see "Tribes" and "Clans" and reasons to kill over and over and over and AGAIN!

And all I ever hear is about how "We" should pity "THEM". Well I DID, and I am tired of it, I say if you have thousands, perhaps millions of GROWN ADULTS that want to kill each other and everyone around them no matter how hard you try to stop them from doing so, Then let them.

We have no choice in the matter as long as they can see a profit in killing they will kill. To show killers mercy is the first sign of a civilations downfall (look what Hilter did). They are savage and we will have no peace until the matter of them is resolved. One way or the other....

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