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  1. wobbler

    wobbler Well-Known Member

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    I had a work in school a while ago about the diffrence in female salary compared to the mens.

    I got all the fact from Statistic Central Bureau (Office, something.) so it's alligment to Sweden, but probaly not anywhere else.

    But when you had counted for age, experience etc. the diffrence between men and women where about 0-4% lower than the mens.
     
  2. Dark Elf

    Dark Elf Administrator Staff Member

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    What's this got to do with communism?
     
  3. Anonymous

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    The fight against oppresion - the female oppression.
    And that is a quite important fight we are dealing with here, because the female oppression is big in most communities, even though noone really knows about it.
     
  4. Dark Elf

    Dark Elf Administrator Staff Member

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    As much as I agree that this is a serious issue, I still can't see why communism would be the answer to it.

    After all, everyone who's been someone in communism has been a man. Regardless of what you might think of the current American administration, it's definitely got more equality in it than the Soviet Union ever had.
     
  5. Anonymous

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    It is true, but in todays society it would be more equal, I am sure of that.

    But, for an example, in the USA, a female has never been president, an that is strange, because I think that people would vote on a female candidate.
     
  6. Dark Elf

    Dark Elf Administrator Staff Member

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    There is no way you can know that.

    Don't slip away from the issue. If communism has the answer to gender equality, then why hasn't there ever been a communist regime with a woman leader?

    In a democracy, people vote for what they want.
     
  7. mathboy

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    Wobbler, using your 4% and the average male life expectancy of 78,29 years and a female of 82,87, retiring at 65, male salary of 20 800 and female of 20 000 a month and a male pension of 12 000 and female of 9000 I got that the difference in total income was 3,2% if they started working at 20. This was using numbers for people born in -38.

    Using their diagram for -68, I get a difference of 1,6%!

    And I'm sorry about writing that female people are stupid, it was my memory's fault and the fact that most people are stupid. I know smart females too.
     
  8. Anonymous

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    And that is the problem! Communist regimes tend to "get stuck" in the Dictatorship of the proletariat. And yes, that is a problem who must be fixed.
     
  9. Xz

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    There is a reason communism isn't named stateism.
     
  10. wobbler

    wobbler Well-Known Member

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    Mathboy, I said 0-4% not 4%.
    And I got most my numbers from SCB (Statisktiska Central Byrån) so I havn't done any of the couting.
     
  11. Ditched Rosselli

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    As much as people like to down the Army for not letting women be in Combat Arms and such like, we do pay men and women exactly equally, because raises are earned based on time in service and rank, not merit. So the Army is the only company that pays men and women the same, even if it doesn't give women all the same opportunities as men. But the reasons for women not being allowed in Combat Arms is mostly biological. When you are in the field for a month, you can't really clean yourself except with baby wipes. Dudes can get jungle rot if they're not careful, but it amounts to some itchiness and discomfort. Girls, on the other hand, can get serious yeast infections and other nasties down there. Also, it's a scientific fact that women are not as physically strong as men (on average), and why would we want weaker individuals in our combat forces? A light infantry soldier carries a combat load weighing 90-100 pounds. Do you think most women would be able to do that?
     
  12. Dark Elf

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    Totally asking for it.
     
  13. Anonymous

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    Totally creeped out. She will get some serious problems with her body when she gets older.
     
  14. Ditched Rosselli

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    I said most, you Viking crazy. And I like the Fafnirsbane thing. Very cute.
     
  15. mathboy

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    Wobbler, I was using your 4% income difference, and my calculations using it showed that the total income for a woman and man during their whole life differs with 3.2% or 1.6% in favour of the male if he earns 4% more than the woman.
     
  16. Frigo

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    Too bad it applies only to salary, not productivity ($$$/hour).
     
  17. wobbler

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    Ok mathboy, then I'm following you.

    And Frigo, I think there was some statistic for, by I'm kinda lazy so I didn't take verything into my project:)
     
  18. Anonymous

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    Communism works, in both theory and practice. But you must fix the communism so that it matches todays requirements.
     
  19. Frigo

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    Today's requirements:
    - democracy, human rights
    - free market, competition
    - low income taxes
     
  20. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Who said that my idealic community will lower human rights-standards?
     
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