Killing! Magic! Rant! Incoherence!

You forgot the biblical Cain...Of course, I'm not sure how the whole "mark" thing will play out in a costume...much less that little fratricide bit.

 

Did you get that from the Book of Nod?

 

A bit late on the uptake, I know, but they passed a law recently that we're not allowed to have little children in games anymore.

So yeah.

 

Well that sucks. What's the reason? Is it because real kids are ok to hit, but god forbid we hit the ones on our computer screens?
People are subjected to violence every day. Kids are beaten daily in the real world. To deny people the right to hit kids in their videogames, an environment of pure fantasy, is to deny them their right to annihilate their own imaginations. How the hell do real world laws branch into the world of videogames anyway? Yeah, real people make games, but fake people are in the games. People who are not real, and therefore have no sense of sentient life or consciousness. What's the difference if the fake person is an adult or a child? They don't know. They don't know anything. They've got responsive programming. As advanced as in-game AI gets, it's all based on conditions and responses. I shoot person, they run, or fight, depending on how their particular branch of the program runs. if the law is anywhere, it should be on games that kids are allowed to get. For that matter, why the hell are parents not parenting their kids and telling them which games are ok? Honestly, I was in a Blockbuster, listening to a mother tell her kids what games they could get.
"Hey mom? how about Grand Theft Auto San Andreas? It's rated mature for strong violence and sexual situations..."
"Well, violence is ok, but no sex."

What the fuck!?
Stupid parents.

 

Do you mean we're not allowed to have little children we can hit in games anymore? There are children in FF 12. There's going to be children in Tabula Rasa. But I don't think you can hit or kill them, though.

 

I agree totally. Wich is one of the reason for wich I do not like USA.

And yes, "The Witcher" has children in it, but I have yet not tried to kill them.
I am unsure if you even can attack friendly NPC's, but since I have yet not tried, I can't really say.

I will come back for a better answer.

 

Actually, no, no little children at all. Tabula Rasa is likely one of many games that are being forced back into production to remove the kids.

I'm about 80% certain that games imported will have to meet the ratings standard before entering the country. So European games won't work either.

I'll try to find an article.

 

I believe it was the European version of Fallout (1 or 2) that was released without children in it because of some similar thing. Someone actually made a patch for that version, though, that put the kids back in.

But on a side note, here in America, it's apparently OK to make live action movies of child violence portrayed by real kids, but not OK for fake, digitized versions of them to show up in games? Wasn't there a movie that came out last year starring Dakota Fanning in a detailed child rape scene? WTF?? And I can't give kids groin shots with a Pancor Jackhammer in FO3? Again. WTF?!?

And what about that Rockstar game, Bully, that came out last year. Wasn't that a game of violence starring.....school kids...especially after all the school-related shootings that have been happening in the States in recent years.

Grakelin: What's the source of your info?

 

I'm on, just let me blow something up, or anything, aslong as something good comes out of it and I am having fun.

And no, you can't kill children in "the Witcher".

From what I can tell you can't even kill adults, you are unable to draw your weapon aslong as there isn't any enemies nearby. (I'm pretty sure that sentence is screwed up somehow...)

 

Threatening to overthrow the US government for any reason is a phone-tap worthy offense. Making a conspiracy to do it is Guantanamo Bay, "marine's foot in your ass for being a filthy Muslim terrorist," material.

But, yeah, WoW has kids everywhere. For that game I think they might make a universal daycare patch, or something like a plot device involving all of Azeroth's children being stolen in the night, and you quest to get the children back, and succeed, but realize that if everyone in the game will have a chance to do the quest, the situation and in-game scenery really can't change.

 

^ In light of that: It's not ok to have AI-controlled kids in games that are harm-able, in a situation where no one can realistically get hurt, yet it IS ok for adults to "digitally kill" real children by way of games like WoW that expose these children to life-like simulations of combat and death matches (minus the magic of course)? Ha, take that US Supreme Court.

This is really the same old "Marijuana is a gateway drug" bullshit again. Old lawmakers, now crusty husks of their former selves and generations removed from telling the difference between Ms. Pac-man and Assassin's Creed, got it in their heads one day that video game violence, and every little detail held within that context (i.e. "child aggression/violence), is a gateway to its respective "realistic" counterpart. Hence, you beating children to death enough in video games translates into you eventually doing it for real someday once you've become desensitized to the virtual act and can't tell the difference between the two anymore. It's really just a complete mind fuck and a total slap in the face to the 99% of us who don't have the trouble telling reality and fantasy apart.

BTW Gross, isn't what you're refering to pretty much what the Patriot Act encompasses?

 

You meet the most interesting people on terror watch lists.

 

Err...yeah. Pretty much.
The farts behind the laws are latching on to the same stuff that censored comic books back in the 50's (thanks Dr. Frederick Wertham, ya dripping, diseased cock!). It was all of this shit that, after being sparked by a poorly sourced book, centralized on comic books turning kids into juvenile delinquents. The proof they used to pass their censorship laws was that every juvenile delinquent read comic books as their main source of literary comfort;
Thing is, every kid in the 50's read comic books, not just the bad ones. it's just like now every kid with the opportunity to play videogames will play videogames, and not just the bad ones. Hell, why not make a survey of perfect kids, and ask if they read comics or play games? I'm sure with that irrefutable data, the senators and representatives will see that videogames and comics make children smarter and better behaved.

I think raid parties that go to Stormwind in WoW are still able to run past the orphanage in the cathedral area. I can't say whether or not the players can kill children, or even harm them, but I do know people have tried while I was playing.