Jinxed, Past and Present

No baal, my point was that you didn't seem to grasp the point of jarinor's post. Hmmm it reminds me of the phrase "he couldn't see the forest, but for the trees" don't remember where it came from thou.

See he meant that you called Dark elf's act of listing SPECIFICALLY what you were doing wrong and you called it a "hint." Jar was pointing out the irony of this by asking what you'd think "blatantly obvious criticism" would be. See his example had nothing to do with the cross, and everything to do with an example of extreme criticism from an outside source, thereby implying that if you thought dark elf's post was a mere "hint" then for something to strike you as "blatantly obvious criticism" must have to involve someone... holding a gun to your head and telling you to change or die. This means that when you said "i can take a hint" you were seriously underrating the extremity of the advice, and what you consider a hint, might seem to others to be something along the lines of... say... blatantly obvious criticism.

 

Well… Hmmmm… how interesting… (Pulls out a trout and slaps Sleek with it) Care for a cup of tea?

 

The Roman Pagans had a right to kill the Christians... the Romans said that you followed our rules, or you die, and the Christians chose death. Besides, if you look at what the Christians did in the Crusades, and for hundreds of years before/after that, the Romans killing a few Christians doesn't mean much. THOUSANDS, if not MILLIONS have died in the name of Christianity, or because they weren't Christian. Not including the millions of Jews that died because they were Jewish. Though you could argue that Hitler wasn't Christian, does it really matter? no. lol.

 

Hitler WASN'T Christian.

Holy shit dude, what was the point of hat post? That was like, an incomprehensile argument against an near indisputable fact.

 

Using your logic, I have to right to kill YOU. The Christians were'nt in the crusades.. You're thinking of the Cathlolics. Big difference, bud. And even making an instance of Hitler being a Christian did nothing but prove your never failing stupidity. Geeze.

 

Big difference? Bullshit. Catholicism is a branch of Christianity. What's the big difference? Maybe A difference, but not a big one.

 

Catholics ARE Christian. They were the only Christians at the time.

 

I wouldn't go around saying there isn't a big difference between Catholicism and Christianity if I were you Wolf - pretty much everyone who's a christian and not catholic is united agains the catholics these days. They differ quite strongly on some very important points, and the various churches feel quite strongly about it.

 

I wouldnt say the difference between christians who are catholic and christians who are non-catholic is very different. Thats all that should matter because as far as I'm concerned, people shouldn't dip uninvited spoons into everyone else's oat meal and then complain about how salty it is. As far as I can tell the size and power of the Catholic church is the only major difference, and even if they weren't people would be against whatever church was the biggest and the baddest. Thats the way people are.

 

Catholics also believe in confessions to a "Father", while Christians don't. Personally, I would rather be a Christian. I'd prefer not to discuss my personal dealings with retard to some guy in a dark booth.

 

Whether Catholicism is a very different from Christianity is simply a atter of opinion. When you get down to it Catholicism is a form of Christianity. It's like sayiing lollipops are very different from candy.

 

No, it's an actual fact. It's a fact that arose from a difference of opinions at various points in time, but it is nonetheless a fact.

One of the few times you're right on the money.

 

Jar what is so different between being catholic and being "Christian" then? Because as far as I know there is no "Church of Christianity" theres only various smaller churches. Baptists, Lutherans, presbyterians, etc.

You're an idiot. There are non-catholic "christians" who handle snakes and writhe on the floor as part of their spirituality. The purpose of confessionals is that you are actually telling a person about the shameful/embarassing/horrible things they've done, therefore they experience more shame, and humility than they would if they just confided in themselves, and trust that god hears them. The father thing is just a common term for a priest.

I don't know what you think is so different about Catholics when compared to "normal" christians. Its not like all of these other christians are so fucking regular, and uniformed, they're just "not catholics." The non-catholic half of the christian world is way to diverse to be so easily generalized and lumped into one group. There are way to many variations for you to say that there is something so idiotically different about the way catholics worship and behave. Catholics have a shady heritage, sure, but who doesnt? Your australian ancestors were just the criminals the English empire decided they didn't want, now this may have included murderers, and rapists, but it also consisted of a large number of debtors, and homeless, does that mean that 100% of Australia's citizens are uneducated trouble makers? No, thankfully that number is down to 50%. Its a similar situation with the Catholics now too, only a relatively small percentage of them are murderous lunatics, nd thankfully the murderous lunatics seem to have redirected their rage at the penises of their altar boys, possbly saving thousands of lives.

Anyway, like I said, how is it any of your business how Catholics worship?

 

actually a lot of australian ancestors weren't convict's, the majority were immagrent's during the 50 and 60's primarilly greekk's and others

 

Goood, thats nice. Whatever you need to tell yourself to secure your national pride.

 

It's funy how lots of Americans slam Australia for it's original purpose when America had the same one.

How can Catholicism be that much different from Christianity? If you're Catholic, you're Christian. You can argue that it's different from the other sects, but it's still Christianity.

 

If only I had a patent on the Bible/“it reversions�. I would only haft to ask for $1 for the right to print each Bible to be rich, and people would pay me more.

 

What a douche. What history are you reading? America was never a penal colony; no, it was more the "promised land" of European expansionism.

Catholics are different from Christians in a number of wide doctrinal variances.
1. Catholics believe in purgatory. Christians (Protestants) do not. This is because Catholics believe in salvation by works - the concept that a person can earn their way into heaven by good deeds, or by the same token a shorter time in purgatory before they get into heaven. Christians believe in salvation by grace through faith. Something clearly illustrated in Ephesians 2:8-9: "For by grace you have been saved through faith, not of works, lest anyone should boast."
2. Catholics believe in the cult of the Saints, i.e. their pseudo-divinity and ability to intercess (pray for help) on our part to God. Therefore, the Catholics pray to the Saints, who are supposed to pray to God. Christians believe that all of us are Saints, another fact found in the Bible. The whole concept of Sainthood was something invented by the Catholics as a form of social control: if you were very good and followed the Church rules, and probably gave alot of money to the Church, they invented miraculous occurances postmortem. Another reason for the Cult of the Saints was so that pagan peoples could more easily accept Catholicism as just another form of polytheism. And so that each Italian village could have one or more patron saint.
3. The whole concept of calling priests "Father." Matthew 23:9: "And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven." I think that's pretty clear.

If you want more proof, I can bring it.

 

So would it kill you to speak instead of the differences between Catholics and the various Protestant sects rather than exclude Catholicism from "Christianity"?

I once took my Polish Catholic boyfriend to a department dinner, and he got into a conversation with a Southern Baptist who told him he wasn't a Christian. He was in a state of shock for several minutes before I explained that Americans use "Christian" as a synonym for "Protestant". He thought it was silly and chauvinistic, and I'm inclined to agree.