Drog's Extra Pack

I've never played with anything more than 1074 patch so I'm not really keen on how Arcanum patches work. If this thing is separate from his bigger patch, can they still be applied at the same time? Or do I have to choose one or the other?

 

The Extra Pack is made to work on top of the Arcanum Patch, and is dependant upon it for correct function.

You can use the Arcanum Patch by itself, but not the Extra Pack.

 

I know TONGSyaBASS did most of this years ago, but when I asked him about it, he said he was still in the process of compiling it, as he's been busy. It's good to see the decoys finally released.

 

Good stuff! Now I actually get to use that stuff in-game without adding it to a character with a background.

 

how/why would you use a background to add extra content?

 

The items are already in the game (therefore not extra content), so you just add the proto number to your character's background. Besides, have you ever NOT wanted to use Schreck's Multi-Barrel pistol? What about seeing how the physician and two decoys work?

 

And now for the irony:

:lol: I bet Drog had his reasons for his nazi policy on news posts.

 

I don't know about your version, but my Arcanum has a fully working explosive decoy/illuminated decoy. The physician never worked for me, and neither did the multi-barreled pistol. I figured it was the same for everyone.
I put the proto numbers into my background, and the physician crashed my game. The pistol just acted like a fancy pistol.
Don't start poking fun because you think you've found a hole. That makes you look like you want to start trouble.

 

Well, since you say so, I bet you don't mind backing up your words with some proof, eh? I'd like to see some screenshots of working decoys in the vanilla 1.0.7.4 game. Show me your method.

The decoys (all extra 3) were never finished (no creature prototypes, no scripts). The pistol had wrong stats. The Charged Axe had no schematic. I understood as much by just following the link.

 

Yes it had. I've played unpatched until today, and I've always been able to buy the Charged Axe schematic.

 

Nah. When I posted my comment about working decoys, I had been delirious from throwing up since about 6 in the morning. The decoys show up for me, they just don't do anything but sit there working like clockwork decoys (and don't crash my game).
I'd like to see anyone make more sense than I did after not being able to re-hydrate themselves for 11 hours.
But yes, the items are already in the game. If they weren't there, there wouldn't be a way to set them up in WorldEd. The chances of them working as intended, however, are pretty slim, since there's no way to legitimately get them in the game.
Besides, if all you're going to do here is act like a resplendent cock to me because my Arcanum behaves slightly different from yours, I'd like to see you stop. Not everyone suffers from the same bugs in the game, so why would I not be able to have something in my game called an explosive decoy that works as if it's just clockwork, i.e. it's just called the wrong thing?

 

No.

HA! HA! HA!

 

The other decoys were definitely not in the game, not as usable items. The other decoys were items, but they lacked the protos and scripts that turned them into critters (or NPCS) on deploy. Rather, they would simply become a different NPC (like a regular clockwork, or how the automaton gunner just became a regular automaton). They needed schematcs, schematic protos, critter/NPC protos, changes to their item proto that attached the scripts that turned them into those NPCs on deploy, scripts to turn them back into the carryable item, all of that. The art for the critters was already there only in that each NPC has 4 color palattes, and the other 3 were created but not made into usable critters. And the stats are stored in critter.mes or npc.mes, whichever Drog used (I'd guess the former).

These are, really, incomplete projects. They bridge the span between new content and bug fixes, because what to add for stats and for schematic text has to be added, and whoever tackles this challenge has to make these determinations. No, it wasn't Drog's idea to have an illuminated decoy et al. but without a fix, these are USELESS, unless your sexual fantasy involves an item that is exactly the same as another item but has a different name and doesn't deploy into anything. Honestly, I'd just give Belle a visit, it's much more worth your while.

 

Did I not just explain to you my situation? I'm struggling to keep everything I drink down in my stomach, and you expect me to make sense? I even admitted that I was batshit crazy when I said the decoys worked.