I note that the thread is getting slightly derailed - I will address the title topic, but first I must make some mention of this TA-#regulars animal. I started visiting about two days ago, and indeed, as you've said, it's either Milo and Kay, or usually empty. And again you're correct - those two seem to have a recurrent theme that centers around the genital area in some way. Either that, or Sean Connery. Thus far I've noticed: if you try to change topics to something not concentrating on these themes the room becomes sluggish and quiet. Only when the conversation comes back to said themes does it again pick up pace, and with fervor. Anyway, These are my initial impressions. I hope more of you log on, and perhaps we can vary the conversation some. There's only so long I can talk about penises and be entertained, you see. About spam: I actually think that, for most, the constant attention that the topic is being paid, has worked. Most people have now gotten into the habit of making sure their posts are meaningful before pressing the "submit" button. So there already has been a short-term solution. However, unless we just go on and on about spam continuously (which I highly, highly do NOT recommend) people will forget, and the unintentional non-meaningful posts will return. I'd like to submit for your consideration the possibility, however, that continually whining about spam is almost just as bad as the spam itself. It is necessary to make mention of it only to try to stop the situation - and for the most part, this has been accomplished. I say "for the most part" because: For those handful that, after all this constant moaning, have not gotten the message - I'm afraid they're either a) too stupid to understand what is being asked of them or b) just don't care. Either way, there is precious little that can be done about this, save instituting some type of policy as Sheriff has mentioned. The continual reminders and bitching has not worked, and will never work, for these few. A policy may be the way to go then, but the direct consequences will only be for that handful of folks who can't control themselves. It's the indirect consequences of a policy like Sheriff's that I'm beginning to appreciate: If a policy is instituted - I'd like to think that the constant griping about spam will stop. Anyone abuses the forum, actions are taken by the admins, and that's the end of it. Every thread will not become infiltrated with pleas and flames to stop the spam. New threads will not be started specifically devoted to the issue. We can all finally stop worrying about the post counts and content and all this, and just get back to having fun talking about things! This is what a well-oiled forum is supposed to be about. Of course, and I'm not sure anyone's suggested this yet - we could nip this thing in the bud once and for all, by dismantling the entire post count/rank system. If the number of posts one's made doesn't mean anything anymore, noone (but the intentionally malicious) will make a post just for the posts' sake. I obviously realize that it would take alot of the novelty away from this forum - but it is an ubersolution to the spam problem, if desperate acts call for desperate times, and Jarinor's not around. ;-) These are my ideas and observations. Thank you for reading them.