Creating a new character, Help! please?

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  1. Force Of Evil

    Force Of Evil New Member

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    I'm trying to create a magickal - high charisma with persuasion - that hardly can fight
    what kinda race should I choose?
    On what should I spend my exp-points, besides charisma and persuasion?
    and how to do it in the rest of tha game?
    How can I let the stupid guy (or girl) survive??? (couldn't accomplish that)

    anyone?
     
  2. Settler

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    I'd recommend an elf, half-elf, gnome (all good for the persuasive type character) or halfling (good for dodging). If you're not attacking, you're dodging. Also, grab a few long-distance/support spells (Disarm, possibly a few offensive ones as well) will help out the troops.

    Make sure you max out (20) your Charisma, because...

    1. You'll need plenty of followers.

    2. ***END OF GAME SPOILER***


















    You need 20 Charisma and full Persuasion to beat Kerghan without resorting to combat.

    Hope this helps.
     
  3. Force Of Evil

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    Thanx, this will probable help

    btw I knew the spoiler already, so it doesn't spoil anything
     
  4. Shadygrove

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    Try the Elf or 1/2 Elf female with the Debutant background. +3 CH, +3 BE, -2/4 all combat skills -1 ST, -1 DX.
     
  5. Force Of Evil

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    I'll try that one later, I've now a Gnome with 20 CH, persuasion bar full but still expert, dodge almost full and expert.

    a couple of questions:

    is Willougshby in Caladon the only persuasion Master?

    how can I possible convince the dwarf on the Isle of Despair to give me those glasses, I normally steal them cuz I was a thief, but this isn't an option anymore, or is it?
     
  6. Susano

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    either your persuate them or the glass maker in ashbury has to make some glasses for you, you need two special cristallys for it 8which you can find in the black mountain clan, so better keep them... what was their name... argh, the green ones)
     
  7. mrnobodie

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    at ease newbie, it's Kathorn Crystal.
     
  8. Force Of Evil

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    How good do I need to be at persuasion? does IN something to do with it?
    what glassmaker? I never found one!
     
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    cathor right! you can find them afer black mountain, but well, better keep them.
    And the glass maker is at Ashbury harbour, of course.
     
  10. Shadygrove

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    The only one who gives you the master quest.

    A thief would pick the lock on the Dwarf's chest, wouldn't he?
     
  11. zxcvbnmnbvcxz123

    zxcvbnmnbvcxz123 New Member

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    I am in the middle of a game with a high cha mage...

    Here's how I used my skills

    Maxed the movement college
    Working on maxing necro white
    1 pt into necro black because harm is the best spell ever... for the fist parts fo the game at lease
    Rest into persuasion and haggle (to buy stuff for my 6 followers)


    Its REALLY good from where I am (going to Caladon) ...maybe a little TOO good... haven't had a problem yet

    My team is
    Virgil
    Magnus
    Sogg
    Chukka (2 ogres!!!)
    Gar
    Dog
    And an empty slot that currently uses the lizard man... warsomething but will be filled with raven.
     
  12. Force Of Evil

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    I have a 20 ch, 14 in good gnome mage
    expert persuasion, full bar
    aprentice haggle
    expert dodge, bar almost full

    Level: 25

    spells I remember:
    harm
    disarm
    entangle
    unlock cantrip
    heal

    team:
    Vollinger
    Virgil
    Magnus
    Sogg
    Chukka
    gar
    Dog

    I'm supposed to be able to have 8 followers, right (20 ch and expert persuation)?
     
  13. Shadygrove

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    6. CH/4 + 1 for expert persuasion. But there are several free folowers other than dog. Thorvald, who you can keep, Dante, & Jormund, both of who want an empty slot to join, but not after that. Just tell those two to wait & rejoin & they fill no slot.
     
  14. PoiuytMan

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    I've had the opposite happen with Loghaire - he didn't need an empty slot to join, but when I had him wait and rejoin, he said I had too many people.

    -Poiuyt Man
     
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    Consider going full nature:
    Entangle is great for keeping a distance (AND gives a -10 speed to help your follower finishing them off) Regneration seems to help your big army, I've not used the spell myself though. Tempus Fugit likewise (and this one definitely kicks ass).
     
  16. Sir Nimhrgh

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    Yeah, I experienced same thing with Sebastian. After I finished his quest he joined me although i had no free slots. But he wouldn't rejoin after I had him wait.
    Sir N.
     
  17. Shadygrove

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    There are some, like Dante & Jormund who sometimes fill a slot & sometimes don't. If that happens again, ask each one to wait & the last one to rejoin one at a time. When you hit the wierd one, he will rejoin the apparently full party.
     
  18. Luinil

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    i have a half elf mage with 18 WP, maxed charisma and persuasion, as well as maxed throwing and dodge. i have all of conveyence and disintegrate and lvl 1 white necro (ill finish it off soon)
    i have virgil, perriman smythe, sebastian, magnus, raven, dog, and sogg in my party to handle anything that blinks. magnus and sebastian make some tech stuff for themselves and sogg if he wants it while arcane weapons and items from wise women keep me, virgil, raven and perriman smyth happy.

    *Mild Spoiler*
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    to persuade kerghan to off himself, do you need high intelligence?
     
  19. Zubbus

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    The minimum package is the Harm spell. Then upgrade to some other spells, problem with spells is that it does go through your fatigue when you are in a room with 15 monsters.

    Although if you are willing to spend a few more points Throwing can make life much easier.

    (I had 14 base Dex, +2 from an item and +4 from agility of fire, which gives me a speed of 25)
    Just 3@expert throwing, with the best throwing thing from the shops, and you'll be cleaning up dungeons and knocking down lvl 40 monsters in your nice suit. You'll never need armor, you'll never need any damage spell or shield of protection (I spent 1 in black nerco and 2 in force and they're completely wasted), and you'll never need your followers to meddle in your fights. Splendid!
     
  20. Gavla

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    I played through with a thoroughly evil magic user.
    Evil Virgil, Z'an, and Geoffery, and Torian Kel was along for the ride so I could do you-know-what at the end. I thought It would be cute to deck us all out in different coloured suits and dresses. We looked natty going into the dungeon, but we all came out butt naked except for our silly gauntlets of dexterity.
     
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