Who'd win?

Looks like Sr. lost some weight since the last time I saw the show. Yeah, I think he'd win...Really, you can only do so much with a folded chair. An engine block or a bike fork? Ha ha ha...

 

Even choreographed, Hogan fake wrestled like crap. He had 4 whopping moves. Punch, scoop slam, big boot, and leg drop. A fucking leg drop was his finisher. C'mon!

I give this one to Sr.

Now Hogan's daughter on the other hand......12 kinds of hotness.

 

as stated here.

Conclusion, Sr would win.

 

You shouldn't mistrust that much. ofcourse you would be able to beat a boxer using aikido.

When saying "good luck trading punches when you don't know how to throw a punch", you seem to forget that aikido is not about punching the other opponent or taking punches. It is about NOT taking punches.

I you throw a punch on me, I would, rather than taking the punch, slide to the side, gripping you stretched out arm with my hand, moving you into a position where I could easily break your wrist if you tried anything.


Ofcourse, as with any other martial art, it's all about the combants skills. A beginner in aikido has ofcourse no chance vs a skilled boxer, and if a skilled aikdo fighter is not fast enough, a skilled boxer could probaly beat him. But aikido is nothing you learn over a night, it takes time, and it takes training.


Now, about your friend I can't say wether he can beat a boxer or not, that depends on the boxer I would say.


Oh, and if you pick up boxin, don't forget to buy roses and say "gutter trash" to your oppents when they loose

 

You'd be surprised DE. The way Aikido works is two-fold; first of all, many boxers are only familiar with how to fight in a boxing match. Martial arts fighters move in entirely different ways, and Aikido puts great emphasis on evading blows, so the boxer would have a harder time hitting him than another boxer.

Also, it's a fallacy that Aikido and other styles like it grab wrists; that's in certain moves. He throw a bunch, you sidestep diagonally towards him, but away from the path of the punch, then, while his arm is extended, you grab it. Then, while holding on, you turn your body by stepping with your back leg, this will cause the weight of your body to effectively shove him in the direction of his punch, where his momentum is already going. You can easily throw anyone, even an experienced boxer, off-balance with a move like that. Then, you hit him and retreat.

That said, your friend might still get his ass kicked, boxing is not a slouch's sport. But Aikido and techniques like it don't claim to throw people with their Chi, it's momentum and using it against larger opponents. Chi is like personal energy, it's almost a mental trick how it works. You imagine your energy heightening and it naturally raises your testosterone levels, and all your muscles start bunching and unwinding. Then, when you punch, or kick, or throw an elbow, you imagine transfering your energy to the target. This might not actually happen, but you, almost subconsciously, throw a HELL of a lot more force behind the punch because you're imagining this strange force working with you.

 

It would all depend on whether or not the fight went to the ground or remained standing.

Btw Why are we pitting them against each other? What's in it for me? If that answer is Brooke Hogan, then, I would say Paul Sr. I've seen both shows. Hulk's body is over-stressed, worn out, fat, unhealthy, etc. Paul Sr at least doesn't have horrible joint muscle problems even though Paul drinks and probably has taken his share of drugs. They moth move pretty slowly, striking would be hard and slow. Although, Hogan is probably better at grappling having wrestled. Hogan would probably win in terms of grappling, Paul wold probably win in terms of socking him in the face.

 

Then don't go furious. Aikido is a mighty style, but like all martial arts, you have to ACTUALLY buy the mentality. Aikido is about patience, you wait to strike until the opportune moment, so there is no opening yourself up until you already have the advantage.

Idk about the strength of aikido hits, I studied aiki-jujitsu, and I wasn't allowed to hit anyone with force after I almost broke my friend's rib (third class I think). Like any style, I think, on its one both aikido and jujitsu are weak in certain areas; that's why I like aiki-jujitsu, it's kind of a melding.

Oh, I forgot to weigh in. Hogan would lose. Unless he brought the python. (Hogan did have a snake right? I know Jake the Snake did, but I thought Hogan had a yellow one)

 

I raise mine bet on Paul Sr.

 

As all techniques in any martial art, when you learn them, you usally use a slow pace in the beginning, but when you have masterd it, it will only take a few seconds to complete it. And remember, aikido is about not getting a punch in your face. And when you have your wrist twisted, there dosn't matter anymore how able you are taking punches. And if you have a broken hand, you wont hit anyone with it.

Again remeber it's about speed. If you are slower than you opponent, you will most certainly loose. That is sure for most fights, it's the faster one that wins. So in comparison, the boxer might move as slow as a pregnant elephant.

 

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No Hogan just always refered to his biceps as "The 24-inch pythons, bother!" And he sometimes wore big, flambouyant, feather boas to the ring. Maybe that's where you're getting your snake reference from.

 

Alas, I was very young when I watched Hollywood Hulk fake slam people into mats.

DE, I really don't know enough about Aikido specifically to debate you any more, all I know is in Aiki-Jujitsu you learn how to not stand there like punching bag in a skirt.

 

I'm no boxer, but from the bouts I've watched, boxers don't seem to put emphasis on dodging blows as much as they do twisting and moving their bodies to block or absorb blows by allowing said blows to hit a less...damageable....area on them. I would agree more with DE that they trade blows and are therefore more condition to throwing and recieving them as a result. I no nothing of aikido or aiki-jujitsu so I don't know what their training or experience in actual combat accomplishes towards their fighting prowess. I would assume they simply would not take as many blows dished out by the boxer, but would not handle any landed blows very well either.

 

This thread stands as a glorious testament to the ability of the members of this forum to derail a thread in not only the first page, but within the first 5 posts.

I have no idea who would win, but it'd probably be interesting as hell to watch.

 

Next Matchup

Who would win:

OR

It's the Tomb Raider against the Last Crusader. Both are charged in the recovery an ancient artifact buried in some old king's grave from a long dead civilzation that harnesses enough power to destroy mankind, blah blah blah, you know how these stories go. Consider each contestant's assets: exhaustive knowledge of dusty nick nacks that nobody gives a shit about, suspiciously convenient financial aid from "deceased" family members or mysteriously contrite third-part benefactors, ability to dropkick nazis and powerbomb muslim terrorists also pointlessly after artifacts in question, dexterity to swan dive 65 feet off of a stalagmite into a 10 foot deep pool of water and jagged rocks without breaking neck, and sleep with annoying, semi-attractive women incessantly whining about lack of relationship commitment.

After careful consideration, I give the edge to Indiana Jones. He may be older, but for what he lacks in youthful stamina he makes up for with an equal lack of 44 DD breasts that would throw any normal human being off balance too much before that first tile-triggered hidden buzz saw trap lops their head off. Plus Lara is just a bloody, British bitch.

 

Jones has the kind of ingenuity to survive any trial, even a fight against Croft, who has the kind of gunslinging skills only found in Hollywood.

Plus, he carries a whip.