The future of Terra-Arcanum?

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Is the concept any good?

  1. Yay, tis good. Go forth and design!

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  2. If I squint really hard and use my imagination a lot, it looks all right.

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  3. Uhh... I need to see some decent graphics before I can agree or disagree.

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  4. It sucks.

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  5. It sucks HARD.

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  1. DarkUnderlord

    DarkUnderlord Administrator Staff Member

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    Thanks to all those who posted links to sites that cover multiple games. Well, here's what I've been mucking around doing. IT IS A CONCEPT (Take the poll!). I can't draw for shit (obviously). So this is just a general idea of layout more than anything. The brown circles are supposed to be gears. Imagine them with an edge of teeth similar to the one around the bottom of the world globe, with the gears interlocking.

    Terra Arcanum Mark II - Design Concept (200 kb image)

    It's in need of a lot of work, but I've done as much as I can. What I'd like to know is if there's anyone here in the forums who has at least some marginal graphics capability who'd be interested in working with me to try and make the design. Enough of an ability that they could make something similar to Terra-Arcanum's existing front page (with the hand-drawn guns and what-not) as well as using the existing colouring, but set to the afformentioned layout.

    Of course it's still a work in progress and I'm still waiting for Jinxed to return, but I'm reasonably confident he'll agree with a decent overhaul (TRANSLATION: Vinnie, get the bat..). I still need to figure out where I'm going to put the "Arcanum / ToEE / Vampire" words that will appear whenever you enter that section (so you know you're in the Arcanum/ToEE section and what-not) but I've got enough that a start can at least be made and we can work from there.

    Rather than crap on about the concept and other stuff, I'll just ask again:
    Is the concept any good and does anyone here reckon they can do graphics?
     
  2. Settler

    Settler Member

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    Umm...I'm a casual Photoshop user - if you give me something specific to design, I'll fail miserably :) . But I enjoy having a bit of a screw around - don't expect anything much, and I may just come out with something nice. I'll try to get something to you sometime soon.
     
  3. Dark Elf

    Dark Elf Administrator Staff Member

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    It would be nice if you could whack up a larger, cleaner version of that one, but still, what there is looks pretty damn good DU :)

    Does it have to all-brown though? Sorry, I don't mean to be an anarchaic radicalist stripped of empathy or anything, but I'd regard it as a good idea to keep the original themes (the Arcanumglobe with gears, the pistols etc) and then fool around with different colorations and such. Why not make a set of pages with different colors and assign a voting contest here at the forum? Some people may find this old-newspaper look a bit dull and boring (well, not really, but something else might be more attractive)

    As for my talents with graphics - believe me, oh fellow Dark One, you wouldn't want me to do any such things. :D
     
  4. Settler

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    I've got a very basic version of a stake/revolver logo going, if anyone can be bothered hosting it for me. Obviously only a start, but tell me if I'm heading in the right direction.

    [EDIT] - Scrub that, I've done a basic mini-logo/god-knows-what and text sample for Vampires, which is looking quite good, and I'm working along similar lines for Arcanum and ToEE. They still need hosting, though - just yell out in this thread, my email's out.
     
  5. Silvio-Arjunza

    Silvio-Arjunza New Member

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    I'm a good at very little artistically, but I've got a friend who can draw shit (by hand) that'll make your nuts hit the floor.... I personally like the design, but if you email me an idea for an image or something you want, I'll speak to her about it... and then I'll scan it, and give it to ya. :) :) :)
     
  6. Sleek_Jeek

    Sleek_Jeek New Member

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    i think it looks realy great, why not throw in a mini section for fallout, fallout 2, and fallout tactics patches/ editors etc for download? those things probably wont be available on official web sites for much longer...
     
  7. Canis

    Canis New Member

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    http://www.nma-fallout.com/

    And for all your continued Fallout needs, I once again give you http://www.google.com/ .

    Besides, don't you think that FO2 and Tactics are getting further and further away from the "World of Troika Games" theme? Personally I'd just be happy to see the Arcanum stuff rehauled/corrected/added to.
     
  8. Jarinor

    Jarinor New Member

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    The Jinxor is back now DU...I'm sure he'll be willing to chat with you in the next couple of days. Just get on IRC in the morning if you can (morning being SA morning, not Poland morning). That's when he's most likely to be there and talking.
     
  9. Jinxed

    Jinxed Active Member

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    Yeah, just got online today.

    Right now it's almost 6am, I've slept only 4 hours in the last 48, (not counting the shut eye I cought during uni) so I guess I'll withhold anything specific till tomorrow.
    Terra-Arcanum will undergo a couple of changes pretty soon though, and not just possible front page rehals.
    I need a chat with all of the staff members.

    Du, I'm thankfull for the effort you're putting into this.

    Needless to say, it's good to be back.
     
  10. DarkUnderlord

    DarkUnderlord Administrator Staff Member

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    Well, the poll is encouraging. No suckage yet!

    You know how to use an FTP program Settler? I've got some hosting I can setup and give you a password to so you can upload your images.

    I've PM'd you with the info.


    Jinxed: Glad you like. I hope it doesn't conflict with any thing you have planned for the site. I should probably try and catch you up in IRC one day.
     
  11. Silvio-Arjunza

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    I agree with Canis, no offense mods, but some of the Arc stuff is out dated, if you need any assistance what so ever I'm more than happy to lend a hand, and good luck with the FTP program! btw, has anyone complained about Jar's violent picture? I personally find it disgusting... it's not like my Picakcha, which was cute, it's just... brutal.
     
  12. Ron_Lugge

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    Agreed!

    However, I would like to suggest getting rid of the theme-based headers (The "library" "council" etc etc parts). Instead, replace each one of those with overall headers (NEWS - GAME - GAME - GAME - AFFILIATES / LINKS / HOSTED SITES [new name needed]). And then you can place the theme-based headers under each of those. For example, take a look at www.orionsector.com (thats where I got the idea... which I think works).

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    And just incase you dig a little further than I'd expect (the news article on the front page would probably show why i'm worried) the fanfic section is currently undergoing an overhaul - there'll be a much more standardized format shortly, currently only Invasion by Betrayal is updated.
     
  13. Blinky969

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    Matt, first off, that's Jinxed sig, not Jar's. Second, his sig doesn't move. Third, he runs HoL and that means it doesn't matter if you don't like his sig. :D
     
  14. Jarinor

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    As Blinky said, it belongs to Jinxed. Secondly, everyone else thought it was pretty cool when he first started using it, so I doubt anyone finds it offensive. If they do, well, then they probably shouldn't get on IRC.
     
  15. DarkUnderlord

    DarkUnderlord Administrator Staff Member

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    Two layers? As in you hover over the fat "D&D:TOEE" link up the top and the theme based headers appear and you can hover over them? Then hover over "Arcanum" and the theme based Arcanum headers appear?
     
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    Looks cool I like it generally though I'd pass on color text on the main page - somehow that red vampire link doesn't fit in with the rest. Make it darker perhaps or just black like the rest.
     
  17. Ron_Lugge

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    Yup. Thats what I was thinking of, more or less. Just remember to A) make the area you "mouse" over to hover large enough that its easy to do so, and B) make it so the mouse-over area also acts as a link to a page containing the sub-headers in case someone with a browser that doesn't support "hover" code drops by.
     
  18. Silvio-Arjunza

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    sorry Jinxed.... oh, and I agree with ya Ron, the two layers is a good idea, and it should be just 'shiny' black text, if ya put too many colors in the site gets a garish look to it... and Jar, what's a link to IRC, and when's Jinxed on? I'd LOVE to see what's so offensive...
     
  19. Jarinor

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    If you go on IRC, you'll run across Kay pretty quickly. I think he set a record for the quickest banning after he went into #arcanum's alternative channel, #qfg_blueparrot, and mentioned (in a roundabout way) incest, and his approval of, and participation in, it. I was personally amazed that he could be banned for so little, which goes to show how much tolerance I have for degradation.

    As for getting on IRC, look on the main site - the instructions are pretty clear, although subsitute #TA-Regulars for #arcanum.
     
  20. Silvio-Arjunza

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    thought I'd never say this, but Thanks Jar... and I've run into worse ppl in chats Kay doesn't sound that bad.... I would prefer talking to someone who approves of incest then to someone who has a picture of a slightly staked body... btw, Sleek, you need to post that link to the Super KKK bros on here agian... that was funny as fucking hell!!
     
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