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  1. Deathsangel

    Deathsangel New Member

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    *spoiler content*

    I got an evil mage, now the doorman in Tulla won't let me in. If I kill him everything inside attacks me. I can handle it and I can kill the master of something and wear his/her amulet (in the school I got all 5 spells from), but I ain't entering anything when I stand in the round portal in the mids of the lower floor on tulla.

    Any thoughts on how to do it? I can still tell Alexander there is a Dark Elf in his organisation and I don't mind double crossing those Dark Elfs cause I don't trust them (RP my evil wizard).

    But any thoughts on this how to achieve it anyway or through another way?
     
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    You could always use an editor to set your alignment to 0 to get past the door then just save once you're in then re-edit your game back to your original alignment.
     
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    Tulla is a community of good Mages. You have to make a part of the good way of the story in order to be let in. (And i am sure you have slaughtered Stillwater, so it is impossible now without cheating)
     
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    Well you can get in withe map trick i spose...

    but what the hell...destroying Tulla is a fun enough challenge
     
  5. Deathsangel

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    *Heavy spoilers, don't read unless you want to know about some funny bugs and how I did it*

    Okay, I indeed slayed all in Stillwater. However, I've tried a few things and it comes down to this (I'm patched by the way for all you people start asking this):

    You can still get the quest of Hadrian to go to look at the "Tomb of Nasrudin", doing this quest allows you to go find a boat.

    Well I used Stingy Pete... did two missions for him, but my evil wizards couldn't resist the power of the Bangellian Blade. So I killed Stingy Pete... rather easily I must say, if you use disarm and have some protection. Takes a long time, but it works.

    Used boat, got to Thanatos. I find Nashrudin. He thinks I am to evil, but gives me the assignment to kill the Bogaroth (apparently they did porgram for evil guys finding him, you will see even more later on). Killed the beast he tells me to go find the Vendigroth ruins. First bug appears here. The first meeting of Nashrudin I had to do twice, that is why I found the bug. The first time Virgil started using the voice of the has-been-dead Virgil. The second time I didn't want to listen to all that talk so I skipped quick through it and... tada! Virgil still uses his evil voice

    I go to Tulla and.... I am allowed in even though I am -100 as alignment. I get my force mastery. Second bug appears here. If I got 34 fatigue I can't disintergrate for 25, either my mage dagger needs to have some manna still in it and I have enough together with my own fatigue or I need to be above 50. Okay... I move one... Go to the dark elf camp without seeing the great wizard of Tulla. I go to the Vendigroth Ruines and get the device.

    I teleport to Rosebourgh and in the Ring of Brodgar lies a dead K'an Hua and a Nashrudin. You can ask Nashrudin about this and he tells him K'an Hua wanted to stop him so he killed him. I do not enter the void, because...

    Now I thought I can do saint Mannox quest (if K'an Hua is alive he says you betrayed him and sends you to the Void immediatly, when you tell Alexander of Mannox). So I tell Alexander of Mannox and wham.... third bug K'an Hua is attacking as if he were alive...

    Uhh... though the programmers seem to have given it some thought that evil people still might go to Nashrudin there are some bugs on the way...

    P.s. under a different note if you use the right sentences I noticed that Dante and Tollo do not count as followers!?! Don't ask me why, but I got a follower to many with my evil mage life now. And my Half-ogre used to have Dante. Ditched him later due to the fact I made him evil by accident with the Dark Helmet.

    Oh, I do not have the editor by they way. I'm missing a file and it doesn't work therefor.
     
  6. toller

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    Insert your install disk and when the display comes up click Repair. If that does'nt work then recycle your DVD and clidk on uninstall. Them reinstall the game. Next reapply the patch and the bugs should be gone. If that does'nt work logon to www.sierra.com and report the problem in the technical area.
     
  7. Deathsangel

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    If you are talking about the missing file, I don't think it is in my game. For the bugs, they are probably really bugs. Why should I go install everything. the game is just working fine and the patch is surely installed as my followers can still gain xp after I had become levl 50, which is something of the patch.

    I think it is a general mistake by the way.

    Cause if ya make peace with Schuyler (so you talk to their father) and after that kill them (i wanted the contents of the locked chest which doesn't open with the key on Schuyler (pick pocketed it to get the broadsword). Magnus shifts between two conversations (left him outside). One in which he wants to join you telling it wasn't his clan and stuff and one in which he doesn't want to join because you made a deal with Schuyler. the program just cannot handle if you do both possible pathways. One variable is not above the other. They have just two variables one Schuyler killed and one of making pact. Both are equally important and NPC's react to both variables, though I reckon the first one should get more importance if ya kill them after the deal, they remain dead and the deal is just thin air.

    Another problem I found by the way is that Torian Kel's skills haven't gone up in 5 levels. STR remains 19, Dex 18 and WP 16. Dodge and Melee are full. Is this because he is an undead and he is not allowed higher stats? If not I am really going to use repair, because I want him to have strength 20 as he is my only real fighter in my evil mage group
     
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    Feel like a bugsquasher even though the game has been released a long time.

    Give virgil the +2 Dex gloves from the elven salesman in Ashbury to get his dex to 20 and he will have 30 speed :-o

    Another thing with people changing into elementals is that they dissappear for one round if they get knocked unconscious. You can still hit them, but you don't see them. Then you see the wizard in a half-falling position. This is turn-based style, which I always use. I never said anything about it as it doesn't really bother me.

    I have 'repaired' the game, which means he reinstalled it. But the bugs remain. I ain't gonna de-install and re-install.

    And I haven't reported them to sierra. You really think I ought to toller?
     
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