is is possible to make a good thief and a good gun slinger

Basically, can you become good pick locks, pick pocket, smithy, firarms, dodge, gun smithy and electricity without keeping up with all the necessary stat points and remaining a very good character?

 

good character? you mean like moraly? yes, many of my characters were good people/gunslinger and pickpockets, it's quite easy

 

I don't mean morally, i mean effective. I ran the character generator from terra-arcanum and came up with this. Does this look alright?

Race: Dwarf Background: Raised by Monks

Level: 50 Aptitude: 100 (tech biased)

Alternative Background:

Primary Statistics

Strength: 9 Intelligence: 20
Constitution: 9 Willpower: 8
Dexterity: 18 Perception: 12
Beauty: 8 Charisma: 7

Hitpoints: 130 Fatigue: 130

Carry Weight: 4500 Damage Bonus: 0

Armor Class adj.: 8 Speed: 18


Skills

Bow: 0 Dodge: 1
Melee: 1 Throwing: 0
Backstab: 0 Pick Pocket: 5
Prowling: 0 Spot Trap: 0
Gambling: 0 Haggle: 0
Heal: 0 Persuasion: 0
Repair: 0.5 Firearms: 5.5
Pick Locks: 5.5 Arm/Disarm Traps: 0.5


Spells/Schematics

Electric Light
Charged Ring
Flow Spectrometer
Shocking Staff
Chapeau of Magnetic Inversion
Healing Jacket
Tesla Rod
Crude Flintlock Pistol
Fine Pistol
Repeater Rifle
Hushed Pistol
Looking Glass Rifle
Hand Cannon
Elephant Gun
Pure Ore
Balanced Sword
Ultralite Axe
Dwarven Gauntlets
Helmet of Vision
Ultralite Chainmail
Elite Plate Mail

 

well, to make an effective gunslinger, you need to put points into dexterity, more chance to shoot, perception, better chance to hit, and firearms, the Doc in Shrouded hills can do both apprentice and expert training in firearms, put some points into the explosive tech...scematic thingy, so you can learn to make your own bullets.

yeah that character would work, doesnt have to be a dwarf, humans or half-elves will work fine

 

Personally, I'd use a human or half-orc instead of a dwarf, but thats your choice. Then you could use Raised by Orcs (or doesn't that work...I'm looking at the Background files up close and I don't remember :-? ) and get a bonus to Melee, Dodge, and Perception. You don't want followers, though, do you? And, yeah its possibly for a decent thief/gunfighter. Can you say Hushed Pistol? I can't remember where the scem is off-hand though. Anyway, heres the makup i came up with. Personally I like it better than the one the character generator. But thats my opinion.

Race: Half-Orc Background: Raised by Orcs
(At Level 50)

Stats:

ST 11 IN 20
CO 9 WP 8
DX 10 PE 18
BE 6 CH 1 (You'll probobly only get 1 follower)

Skills:

Bow .5
Dodge ~2.5
Melee ~2.5
Throwing .5
Backstab 0
PickPocket 5
Prowling 1
Spot Trap 0
Gambling 0
Haggle 0
Heal 0
Persuasion 0
Repair 0
Firearms 5
Pick Locks 5
Arm Traps 0


Full Smithy College
Full Gunsmithy College
Full Electricity College
Novice Explosives College

This is following your guidelines. You have more melee and dodge in case they get close AND be able to get Master in both. I'd skip the electricity college though. There's nothing really good in it anyway. (Thet I know of) Tesla's cool, but not worth it. And just like Josh said, a little into explosives for bullets, and you won't have to worry about ammo. The prowling's there for keeping quiet when breaking and entering. Trust me, it'll be useful. If anyone has comments on this, I welcome flames, suggestions, mistakes I made , and other things that make this better.

 

This is pretty much what I was looking for, but I think that build needs more dex (or how do you get pick pockets, pick locks, etc. to be at skill 5?) My character had the same problem with perception too since the character generator thought firearms was using DX when it should have been using perception. So, my build was impossible to make. I'll try to mix the two and try to come to a happy medium =)

 

Be a dwarf, drink essence of intellect for +10 intel (when u need it) get samll machined platemale from wheel clan. Forget gunsmith, buy some books and nick the firearms masters gun to make a tesla gun. Get "dark sight" background and fight/steal at night. Wear eye goggles (from wheel clan and get up to shakar in the gods quest. Get lvl 1 explosives and lvl 7 electric. Aslo get gunsmithy, dodge, prowling, pickpocket, picklock. When you get 50 tech apt get magnus's gloves for +2 str, dex and con. meaning that with charged rings, you have to only get 5 more dex and put 6 points on pe.

 

Whoops! forgot about Dexterity! Well, as I said, skip the electical college and put that into dexterity. Then only raise Intelligence to 19 and put that extra point into dexterity. Should work out, but the happy medium sure looks good from this extremely confused vantage point.

 

I heard having charged rings were really good though. Using them, you can get some dexterity bonuses, though I'm not sure how much because the manual doesn't say. So perhaps maybe getting some points to get charged ring would be worth it? Or does the rings later on become much better that putting points here is useless in the long run?

 

You say forget gun smith, but later you say, "Aslo get gunsmithy, dodge, prowling, pickpocket, picklock." Perhaps a more accurate build would clear this up (maybe with equipped items to see the final result?)

 

Items: eye goggles (+2pe), 2 charged rings (+2dx each) magnus's gloves (+2dx,con,str) small oiled theives leather (+5np), cassies necklace (+40ma), tesla gun, metal boots. Electric rules for a thief. +4 dx from rings, spot traps from spectrometer, heal rate from the jacket, loadsa defence from chapeau.