Arcanum wiki?

In my opinion (however biased it may be, haha) it seems that the current wikia would probably be more preferable, as it has a simpler URL and already has a basic structure.

I also already have administrator rights to http://www.arcanum.wikia.com, which would mean we wouldn't have to wait around for an administrator change or anything. I feel that it would be alot easier to simply incorporate the information that is available on the second wikia onto the first, rather than to have to set up an entirely new wikia.

But as I said, just my opinion, feel free to use the second wikia instead.

 

Are you Bruce Caelan? The one, who created the new wiki? I agree with you that the url of your wiki looks much nicer. But yours doesn't show in Google search results pretty well. Do you know what might rectify this problem?

May I ask you to give me administrative rights to it? I would really appreciate it. I will also have to check if it is possible to put one wiki down and make it redirect to another - I will contact the owner of the second wiki.

 

I am indeed.
I'm fairly certain that the indexing problem (with arcanum.wikia.com) is due to not as much activity on it as the other wikia; alas this is no surprise as I'm currently the only one actually editing on it at this point in time.
I'm also fairly certain that if you, and hopefully a few others in the near future contribute to its articles, then it will move up to the front page of search results.

I'm currently unaware of as to how to give someone else administrator rights, but I shall be looking into it. What's your wikia username? That would be great if you could somehow redirect the other wikia onto my one, and then any contributors on the other one will surely come onto the one I'm currently working on.

However, as I have said, if this is too much of an issue, simply feel free to use the second wikia instead.

 

It is very good that you didn't disappear like the creator of the old wiki =)

Here's where you can edit user's permissions. Beaurocrat and admin privileges are on the right hand side after entering user's username: mine is Soshial.

I'm not sure that we can redirect other wikia's pages directly, but we can copy the material (actually, move it), put a link to our wiki and place some info, that all data was moved to other wiki. Do you think that would be okay?

I also created an Arcanum google+ page. In order to boost search results we might need to link the wiki and g+ page. But they ask this: Uploaded with ImageShack.comю

Do you think it's possible to place this link on the Wikia?

UPD. Also, here are the rules about CLOSING OF THE WHOLE WIKIA. We can close the other wikia only if we are admins/bearucrats. I am waiting for the answer of the creator.

 

I've given you administrative rights. I'm not currently at home, but when I get back later this afternoon I will make sure to add the code to the wikia.

In the set of rules you linked it says that you can apply to have wikias redirect to another wikia, so once the admin of the other wikia replies, maybe you could put in a request for that? We could possibly have each of the wikias redirect to ours to further boost the audience?

Feel free to edit any theming on the wiki, I just set up a basic theme for the website which I was going to come back to.

Edit: Would you be able to send me the link that I need to copy into the wikia? The quality of the image you posted isn't that great so I can't identify any of the text, haha.

 

Thank you very much for granting the rights.

Google+ asks me for this code to paste:

Code:

<a href="https://plus.google.com/117336186620677797465" rel="publisher">Google+</a>

I'm still waiting for the answer of the admin of the old wiki. I will try to resend him a message.
I just want to ask for his permission to be able freely move all the content.

I wanted to ask you, what is the point of creating blank pages with no information?

Where are you from by the way?

 

Okay, cool. I'm actually currently getting a wikia username change so I can't sign in to post the code but it should be finished soon, haha.

Yeah, fair enough we wouldn't him coming back later and yelling at us for stealing the information, haha.

Oh! About that! I actually create the blank pages so I'm able to hyperlink the articles that I've written so I don't have to come back to it later, and it also helps me keep track of which articles I need to write, haha, sorry.

I'm from Australia; and you?

 

May I contribute?

 

Feel free!
The more contributions the better, and the more contributions the more extensive the wikia will become.

 

This is probably pretty well known around here, but if you're serious about the wikia you should know that there is a fairly extensive (possibly complete) schematics guide in the RPG codex. Lots of valuable information I would think. Click here if interested.

 

Ahh! As I'm new here I was actually unaware of that guide!
I'll be getting in contact with the writer of the guide to ask for permission of their information soon.
Thanks heaps Ruda!

 

Why would you want to change your username? Also, did you manage to put my link-code there? This can really boost our search results.

As to creating blank pages: this is considered quite a bad practice. If someone reads an article and sees the blue links everywhere, one can think that all these connected articles are written already and need no addition/amendment. But if they look red, this encourages a person to write at least something on the topic. Also, we can have a real representation of how many articles we still need to write. The best practice for everyone is to have their own list on their pages.

Also, why would you want to change the style of wiki? Honestly, I would really want to change it as well by making it less cumbersome and less overloaded. I really like minimalistic (but also neat and beautiful at the same time) designs. You think it's possible with state wikia means?

I'm from Russia. There is a great number of Arcanum fans from Eastern European countries

 

Good news, everyone!

@QuiteAbitLate! A quite active user named Matness has registered on our wiki and he moved all articles to us from the old one.

Awesome! Now we have one wiki and can edit it without discord and dissipation of our efforts
Everyone is welcome to the wiki

 

I would love to help with the various bits and pieces I can remember, but the site really needs to be cleaned up before most people could be bothered. The categorisation is a mess (for example you have no list for non follower NPC:s, no bestiary categories) and your pictures cover much text, going beyond their supposed borders. It's not a fun environment to work in.

However, I didn't intend to waste this post solely on whining. Make sure to take advantage of the information stored here, and it's a real nice looking page. There is a lot of text to get you started on various beasts and location.

Actually, if I could make a suggestion, I'd advise to to begin with lore rather than gameplay. There are quite a few guides covering gameplay aspects already. Writing walkthroughs takes an enormous amount of time and isn't very fun. Instead, start writing articles on the various locations. Use the manual, the info from the link above and the game's dialogue files (and, of course, the in game books). Begin with the nations (Cumbria, Arland, Unified Kingdom). Then the important cities (Dernholm, Caladon, Tarant). Then the important factions and characters, not the ones important to the story (Virgil, the Schuylers, Joachim etc), but the ones important to the setting and its backstory (Willoughsby and the rest of the council, king & queen of Tarant, August Farad, Praetor & Maximilliam).

Write about the World, then the Arcanum storyline.

 

Sorry to be a bit late to the party, but I've gotten quite bored in the months between Uni, so I have been working on the Arcanum Wikia. Just thought I would leave a message here since this is where it all started. If you guys check out the wiki now, I've added more then 200 pages and over 1000 pictures.

 

Hey, it really looks quite decent now! Don't quite have the time for serious wiki-activity at the moment, but I propose that we start a few sugestion threads here for the major articles so that everyone can add what they remember even if they can't be bothered with writing actual articles.

Again, it looks great. Impressive work!

 

Good stuff Cephean, if I get round to it I might had some contributions at some point. It's nice to see that the ground work has been laid down already.

 

Re:

Thanks Ruda, I've put quite a few hours work into the wiki whenever I'm bored. Personally I'm just really happy theirs a Arcanum community still around that is really quite active. Also that would be great for people to add to the wiki wherever they can, the real difficulty I'm having with the wiki is collecting resources (e.g. pictures, videos, artwork and audio) since a lot of the old websites have been taken down.

Right now on the wiki I'm just working on the Quests and just trying to get the basics down, so far I have just done Shrouded Hills... So still a fair few to go.
http://arcanum.wikia.com/wiki/Quests

Thanks for the complements Jojobobo, and any help is welcomed!

 

Character Index Page

So, I've had a little free time on my hands and decided to create a list of Arcanum's many NPCs. Inspired by the character pages on the Fallout wiki I decided to write short descriptions for each character. It got...old real fast. I haven't added this to the wikia since its quite an uncathegorized mess at the moment, and since I haven't really worked on a wikia before and don't want to accidentally delete someone's material (don't know if there are saved backups and so forth). Here you go:

Spoiler

Characters

Player Characters
Merwin Tumblebrook – halfing tech thief
Horace McGineley – half elf mage thief
Ke'ree Melange – half elf techno-mage diplomat
Victoria Warrington – human beauty/mental based diplomat
Solomon Doone – human necromancer
Luggard Bloodstone – dwarf fighter technologist
Godfrey Castleburger – gnome socialite technologist
Clarisse Vorak – half orc physician technologist
Merick Luggerton – half orc fighter
Muck Evil Eye – dumb half ogre brawler
Dre'n L'elor – elf mage archer
B'elan T'Seraa – elf charismatic melee mage

The Living One – create your own character

Companions
Virgil – fledgling human priest of the Panarii religion (VO)
Sogg Mead Mug – half ogre drunkard
Magnus – typical city dwarf (VO)
Jayna Stiles – half elf technologist healer
Volinger – shady gnome gunslinger and chemist
Tollo Underhill – imprisoned halfing thief
Gar – world's smartest orc (VO)
Chucka – ogre bodyguard
Perriman Smythe – human wizard, associate of Edward Willoughsby
Sebastian – human technologist, associate of Edward Willoughsby
Geoffrey Tarrelond Ashe – snobbish human necromancer (VO)
Worthless Mut – beloved canine companion, a brute fang on steroids
Dante – bitter priest, former head of the Church of Cumbria, hater of orcs
Franklin Payne – adventurer archaeologist extraordinaire (VO!)
Torian Kel – undead warrior of the Derian-Ka (VO)
Loghaire Thunderstone – king of the dwarves (VO)
Jormund – dwarf wizard, anything but typical
Raven – acting queen of the elves of Quitarra (VO)
Za'n Al'urin – dark elf warrior-priestess and seer (VO)
Waromon – amazing lizard man, makes a point of being cold-blooded
Weldo Rubin – halfing adventurer
Murgo – half ogre half wit, good at carrying stuff
Cynthia Boggs – human bandit, born in captivity
Lady Druella – the most beautiful woman in the world
Thorvald Two Stones – dwarf bandit trapped on island
Swyft – elf maiden who wants to see the world
Arronax – the guy you thought were the big bad. I suppose a SPOILER warning is in order. (VO)
Kraka-tur – a Void dweller
Bane of Kree – another Void dweller
Gorgoth – yet another Void dweller

Crash site (and surrounding countryside)
(Virgil)
Preston Radcliffe – passanger of the ISF Zephyr and owner of the mysterious ring (VO)
Isaac Zaprunder – photographer on the ISF Zephyr
Wilhemina Carpenter – passenger of the ISF Zephyr
“Elf City Dweller” – mysterious assassin
Charles Bregho – deceased human bandit
Arballah – elf priest
Simon Farkhus – human bandit

Shrouded Hills
Constaple Owens – cowardly chief constable and mayor of Shrouded Hills
Doc Roberts – local sawbones and the town's real law
William Radcliffe – gnome out-of-towner
Ristezze – eccentric, if somewhat urbane, junk dealer
Lloyd Gurloes – local blacksmith
Bessie Toone – the now deceased owner of the Bessie Toone mine
Percival Toone – son of Bessie Toone and current (?) owner of the mine
(Sogg Mead Mug)
Gaylin – elven herbalist and healer
Jacob Bens – shady bar patron
Jongle Dunne – local alchemist
Hevor – dwarf savant and steam engine technician
Lukan – “elouquent” bandit and thief
Slim Picket – gnome shopkeeper

(Shrouded Hills guards)
(Bankteller)
(Inkeeper)
(Bartender)
(The Bowen Gang)
(Wise Woman)
Ol' Bessie – local cow, pride of the town!

Dernholm, capital of Cumbria (and surrounding countryside)
Charles Doolan – shopkeeper and associate of Jongle Donne
Lianna Pel Dar – skilled warrior and only child of Warren Pel Dar, captain of the Dragon Knights
Preator – king of Cumbria
Sir Garrick Stout – melee master and captain of the guard
Sarah Toone – daughter of Bessie Toone
Gladys – lonely old woman
Archibald – grumpy old man
Bernard – dock worker and son of Archibald
Dudley Crosston – expert bowman in training
Rupert – half orc junkdealer
Wallow – human blacksmith
(Jayna Stiles)
(Volinger)
(Tollo Underhill)
(Druella)

(Cumbrian Guard)
(Inkeeper)
(Bartender)
(Bar patrons)
(Pit prisoners)

Blackroot (and surrounding countryside)
Mayor of Blackroot – you guessed it!
Garret Almsteadt – half orc blacksmith
Clarissa Shalmo – throwing master and beautiful half orc
Kietzel Pierce – half elf bow master on the lookout for missing student
Daniel Hallaway – inkeeper, not too fond of Garret
Mrs. Cameron – dabbling inventor and repairer, mother of the more talented Liam
Liam Cameron – missing inventor
Grünwald – german poisoner and hater of orcs
D'ak Taan – elf thief and gang leader
Tugal – crazy hedgewizard, owner of fancy statue
Herkemer Oggdoddler – old soldier, veteran of the wars with Tarant and Dernholm
Master Shipbuilder – a really good shipbuilder, hard at work
Killian Drake – expert gambler
(Dante)
(Franklin Payne)

(Inkeeper)
(Bartender)
(Bar patrons)
(Conductor)
(Ship captain)
Naked Halfling – powerful wizard, player of the ancient game

Tarant – Upper class, Kensington Park, City Hall and University
Edward Willoughsby – chairman of the Industrial Council
Lorham – his seemingly gentle bodyguard
Heinrich Jenks – let's call him a patriot and leave it at that
Mathew Jameson – a nasty, nasty little man
Gilbert Bates – brilliant inventor (VO)
Captain of Bates' Guard – a glorified doorman
(Chucka)
W. Thomas Moreau – broker in charge of selling a certain manor
Cassandra Pettibone – unscrupulous upper class twit
Evelyn Garringsburg – stolen painting lady (seriously getting sick of writing these)
Polgram – her half ogre manservant
Mr Franklin – overweight, but suspiciously virile gnome
??? - his half ogre servant
Mr & Mrs Moorland – out-of-town nobles
Laura – their maid
Regina Halster – pinch-faced lady, fond of presents
Castleton – general store owner
Thurston – elf tailor and bar patron
Grant – owner of Grant's tavern
J.T. Morat – master of finance and bar patron (likely a member of the Industrial Council)
??? & ??? - his half ogre bodyguards
Smythe – gunsmith and gun store owner
Wallow – dwarf blacksmith
Geoffrey – inventor, shares a shop with Anna
Anna – herbalist, shares a shop with Geoffrey
Delores Beston – a big, fat fraud
Victor Wright – editor of the Tarantian
Frederick T. Fitzgerald – a self-proclaimed legend, also spot traps master
H.T Parnell – owner of H.T Parnell's museum
(Gar)
Sammie White – a jovial little halfing, fond of insults, master pickpocket
Thom Grak – half orc conspirator (never quite got his part in it)
Barach – owner of a daytime mage shop
Xe'rad – magesmith hexsmith whatever you call it
Zaramin – owner of nighttime mage shop
Jared – captain of the Vermillion Station guard
Benjamin Gershwin – the greatest phrenologist ever
Professor Eakins – adequate demonologist
Aldous Buxington – decent theologian
University Bookseller – pretty self explanatory
Dr Tristan Fenwick – head of the Zoological Society and some sort of master methinks
“Half orc city dweller” – an assistant of Dr Fenwick
Librarian – university librarian
Mr Langley – doorman at the Bridesdale Inn
Doorman – doorman at the Wellington
Wendell Wellington – greasy little gnome, owner of the Wellington
Matt de Caeasar – just another drunk, or is he...
“Dark Elf Noble” – a suspicious looking patron of the Wellington, probably up to no good
Gurin Rockharrow – dwarf master gambler, fond of newspapers
Panarii Priest – a priest of the Panarii religion
James Kingsford – the front man of P. Schuyler & Sons
Pelonious Schuyler – the deceased owner of P. Schuyler & Sons
Winston Schuyler – the talkative Schuyler brother and current owner of the family business
Niles Schuyler – co owner and brother
Edward Schuyler – co owner and brother
(Magnus)
(Perriman Smythe)

(Bartender)
(Bar patrons)
(Bates' guards)
(Bates' staff)
(Conductor)
(Tarantian officers)

Tarant – Lower class, Docks and Factory District
Madam Lil – the proprietor of a house of ill repute
Bunny – half elf kink
Willow – human youth
Cassie – human sub
Alice – half orc dom
Belle – sheep (dom?)
Nicholas – half ogre bartender/bouncer
**Female Gnome – lady in the brothel's backroom
Poone – owner of a flophouse bearing his name
Joseph (?) – dwarf stonecutter, makes tombstones
Mr Black – though shady looking character, expert thief and fence
Simon Plough – owner of rat infested warehouse
Thaddeus Mynor – head of the Thieves Underground
Stanton – head of Stanton Importers, current owner of the Bessie Toone mine
Cedric Appleby – crappy inventor
Madame Tussaud – evidently the real deal
Rorry Limes – a dirty, dirty half orc thief
Councilman Braithe (or Babcock?) – member of the Industrial Council, champion of orcish rights
Donn Throgg – charismatic half orc activist and unionizer
Foreman – head of Bates' factory
Captain Wheeler – captain of Tarantian guard, carries one hell of a machine gun
Charles (?) – dwarf technologist in charge of the Water and Power Plant

(Ship captain)
(Factory workers)
(Bates' guards)
(Tarantian officers)
(Orc thugs)
(Dockworkers)
(Wise Woman)

Tarant – The Boil
Darian Maug – cunning gangster, leader of clan Maug
Pollock – brutal gangster, leader of clan Pollock
Milo – perfumed gnome, member of clan Maug
Muggs – dwarf thug, recruiter for clan Maug
Miranda Tears – fierce knife fighter, recruiter for clan Pollock
Larrs – poor sod
Caleb Malloy – badass barkeep
Malek Nebbs – stick-up man, member of clan Maug
Treat – half orc snake man, Black Legion remnant
Mellin Bungerton – halfling junk dealer with prices just short of highway robbery.
(Sebastian)

(Bar patrons)
(Tarantian officers)
(Thugs/Bandits)

Ashbury
Mayor of Ashbury – an important government official, I would wager

to be continued...

As you can see it's not nowhere near done, but I believe I've covered all the locations mentioned entirely. Their are a few question marks relating to characters whose names I've forgotten and there are likely a few spelling mistakes.

Now I realize that I haven't been entirely consistent. I figured that to be included on the character list an NPC had to fulfill one or more of the following:

1. Have a "known" name not "Human Villager"
2. Have unique dialogue self explanatory
3. Be mentioned by another character or in game text AND be present in the game Polgram is an in game character and is mentioned by Evelyn Garringsburg but doesn't have any dialogue (and is referred to by the game as "Half Ogre City Dweller" or similar) and is included. Mr Garringsburg on the other hand isn't included. He is mentioned by Evelyn and at least two newspapers but can't be found anywhere. While he may eventually have a personal wiki entry he shouldn't be on the NPC list

I noticed a while in that I hadn't been following my own rules (Note: my rules, i.e. just suggestions. Please make it known if you disagree) by including various shopkeepers. While they have dialogue (and some of them have their names referenced in their stores' names) these dialogues aren't unique (shared with other general store clerks, junk dealers, blacksmiths) and they don't have a "known" name. While Charles Doolan and Lloyd Gurloes obviously should be included, would you say the same for Slim Picket (of Slim Picket's) or Rupert (of Rupert's House of Well Worn Effects)?

I've also parenthesized some entries. These either shouldn't be on the list but were written down for my own recollection or have been written down twice (followers etc).

 

Re: Character Index Page

Not to sure what happened to my last comment, I can only guess it is still yet to be approved; I hope this one will get through. But I ended up just adding all of your awesome character summaries to this page:
http://arcanum.wikia.com/wiki/NPC%27s_and_Followers
Very unedited still, and if anyone could be bothered putting it into alphabetical order that would be great. And ill guess i will just go back to working on the page.