i seem to have troubles with being able to become master in the water college. the master of water in tulla doesn't seem to show any dialogue that would activate the mastery test. he only offers the quest that he is suppose to(one with albert) and then after ive done it, i cannot speak about anything with him. so what to do from here? any way around this? other solutions to get the mastery maybe? i have latest official patch and latest drog's patch installed, and they seem to be installed properly too as i haven't ran into any other problems or bugs.
Checked it with the latest official and unofficial patch and had no problems with the mastery, the dialogue option was where it should be. Hmph.
Hrmph! Well, how did you resolve the Albert quest? I had this problem at one point and short circuited it by pickpocketing the water mastery medallion. Hrmph?
Wait...Are those mastery medallions always present, or do they disappear once the player already has one in his/her possession?
What's your aptitude? If it's even slightly tech that will prevent you from doing the mastery quest - as unlikely it is that you'd have levelled the water college up that high and still had tech aptitude.
Checked it out of curiosity and it didn't work. They do not disappear. A dedicated collector can very well get all 16 medallions. Still, the topic about mastery is started in such a situation nonetheless, so that's probably not the case here.
In vanilla, one can pickpocket all 16 medallions and then, when doing any one of the quests while carrying all 16 medallions, one's journal lists one as master of all colleges, although only the first one in alphabetical order (conveyance) actually applies the bonus. This was my standard modus operandi for supermegametagaming. However, in WIP and, I guess, drog's UAP, the first medallion you choose to accept makes all the others disappear, presumably to stop this exploit.
update time. as was guessed, my characters magickal aptitude is 90 so it isn't because of tech aptitude. infact, it should be known that i have no problems at taking masteries in general, i also have white necromantic maxed and i had no problem getting the mastery test for that when i tested. i even resorted to the ultimate and reinstalled whole arcanum and applied 1074 patch again aswell as drog's patch. but despite all that, there was no change to it. still no dialogue showing for the water mastery test. also this seems to be universal problem for all characters, i tested it with another character just to make sure and didn't get the dialogue with her either. and although im not sure why the albert's quest has anything to do with this, i accepted it normally, had to kill the poor guy as i didn't have enough persuasion to get him to just leave and gave the gem to the master. after this was done, he had no dialogue to offer anymore, except me saying that im leaving.
If you would be interested in that, Deitti, you can send me your save. If I will not be able to ask for mastery training, we will know the problem does not lie with your installation. If, however, I will be able to ask for it, I'll do so and send you the save after accepting the required mastery quest. From what I observed in my game (latest official and unofficial patches), the medallions do not disappear at any point, but once a player accepts one mastery quest and receives an amulet, he can no longer receive a mastery quest (and therefore medallion) from any other master. All other medallions can still be stolen, though, even if some medallions are not visible at first.
yeah, i would be very interested in that, as i also want to see if it's because of my installation. ill send you a save that was made just in front of the door that leads to the water master. in the save i have not spoken to him yet and the albert quest hasn't been initiated yet so it should be easy to get the dialogue if it appears. now i just need a place to send it to haha.
Not sure whether it's good or bad news in this situation, but it's probably something with your installation, seeing how the dialogue in your save worked just like they should in my game. I've sent you the save after accepting the quest and screenshots showing the dialogue.
yes, i also loaded the save you sended me and was able to complete the test just fine now and got the medallion aswell as being master of water with halved fatigue costs as normal. based on your screenshots, the difference starts when the master introduces himself as master of hydromancy. in my original save, my character simply said "hydromancy?" basically making it seem as if the game didn't register me having the water spells at all and the master thinking i have no spells from the water college therefore he wasn't able to initiate the master test either. i guess as you said, something must be wrong in the installation, however im not sure what could have gone wrong, as i installed arcanum and the 1074 patch normally and i always install drog's patch literally like it is said in instructions. and the patch works too, as i told earlier i haven't ran into any bugs and all the changes from changelog seem to work. but well, like i said, atleast the mastery test worked normally after you sended the save back and everything works normal again.
