Bethesda games and story

I've got Morrowind and Fallout:NV. I've played both of them for quite some time, and I can remember almost nothing about the story, maybe one or two characters and just as few quests. Compared to some other games, say... Jade Empire and Mass Effect, Bethesda's stuff doesn't seem all that interesting. Am I missing something, or should I simply turn off my brain, go "look at da pwetty" and gawk at the size and depth of the world all day?

 

Oblivion and Fallout 3 have amazing stories and there is practically no bugs in them either. Probably the best games they have ever made.

 

I really hope you're being sarcastic Zanza.

Oblivion is populated by like, 5 voice actors and Patrick Stewart. Who voices one character who dies immediately. Also, I absolutely loathed Oblivion's main plot. I just. Did. Not. Care. And ignored it my entire experience after getting to the part where that whiny man-child asked for a Dremora artifact or something. Also, I hate how their games got progressively smaller.

Daggerfall? Fucking the actual size of Britain. Towns and villages and dungeons everywhere. Large Capitals. A lot of the countryside was empty, but the game is ancient, they had limitations. The game had nudity and varied factions and almost had actual animated sex scenes. Before they got cut for time or something, along with the JOINABLE PROSTITUTE FACTION.

Morrowind? Quite a bit smaller. but it was cleverly designed and molded to feel a lot bigger. Weird and interesting architecture. An Epic plot. Toned down the mature aspects unfortunately. Less factions, simpler faction and law system.

Oblivion? Plot like a horses arse in comparison. Despite Tamriel supposed to be a large empire it's tiny with like 5 towns. Even a hint of modded in Nudity and they're like: "NOT US USERS DID IT DON'T SUE US TITS ARE HORRIBLE EVIL THINGS." The closest thing they have is those cock tease bandits you kill. Not even an option as a female to actually join them and/or do a few missions for them or anything instead of killing them. All the people are weird and look and sound the same. At least Morrowind had the excuse of being old and earlyish 3-d. Oblivion's selling point was LOOK AT OUR PRETTY WORLD. Populated entirely by off-looking Clones. Almost all the dungeon areas can be described by the same 3 types, unless you do the plot. Which gets you another 1 or 2. Cave, Ayelid, or a castle/dungeon. Seen one from all 3? you now know what every dungeon outside the plot is going to look like. Morrowind had a bit more variety. Daggerfall's dungeons were... horrible. Only major complaint with daggerfall really. Oblivion factions are all but non-existant. You can pretty much join most of them with no detriment to the others.

On the topic of Bioware versus Bethesda. Bioware games are linear. This allows them to put much more detail in their locations and characters, since the game is basically the plot. Bethesda games are open world where the plot is entirely optional. Thus the put more effort into an open world and side content then their main plot and characters.

I could go on but I'm going to stop now because I'm really hungry and ranting about video games on the internet is stupid. God I am bored.

 

I was interested in New Vegas's story, but the ending is kind of a fizzle.

 

Fallout New Vegas is not a Bethesda game.

Anyway, Morrowind has the best story/setting out of all Bethesda games. Have you been skipping the dialog or something?

 

I played Morrowind and I didn't find it so brilliant. There is some nasty bugs who screwed up the main quest for me when you have to unify tributes.

The open world, I just don't really like it. You are looking for a place and you get lost or find like 150 boneyards between you and the destination. BUt I like the idea of level experience by practising.

The plot is not very good in my opinion...

 

No, I actually quite dilligently ask everyone everything. It just seems like I've heard it all a dozen times before. After a while I just get tired of it and give up. The (appearant) lack of any interesting characters doesn't really help either.

 

I agree I didn't find Morrowind as intriguing as it should of been. All the hype probably ruined it for me. I had more fun running around doing my own thing than the quests it provided.

 

Was the fun you had creating your own adventure worth the investment of time and money?

 

Got the game for $10 so I'd say it was well worth the time sitting there talking to myself pretending to have quests.

 

At least at the end of Morrowind you get the payoff of being a God-King. And a palace, iirc. Whereas in oblivion you... get a pat on the back and a suit of armor. Plus I modded Morrowind to fuck. By the end I was Running around as a Badass Vampire with a full suit of custom enchanted Deadric Armor, a Custom enchanted Deadric Dai-Katana. Some artifacts, and a vault filled to the brim with cool loot. I was pretty much a whirling tornado of death. Fun times. Another complaint for bethesda. Stop kicking your vampirsim in the crotch with every new game. Daggerfall had like 13 vampire clans with moderately unique attributes, and alliances and enemies among the other clans. Morrowind had 3, but being one pretty much broke the game in terms of EVERYONE LOATHING YOU. Had to mod it so you could finish the main quests. Oblivion? You get one guy in a basement who asks if you wanna be one. Buh. Plus they look weird as hell. Dammit I'm ranting again. Its just. So much potential. Lost.

But yeah. Don't play Bethesda games for plot. you probably won't enjoy it. Plot is pretty much an excuse to prance you around the continent exploring. The real fun comes from exploring new places, killing shit, and finding interesting stuff.

 

...So it's a fantasy Indiana Jones?

 

Good. Incorporating a sandbox into a game is a good way for developers to provide an engaging option for the players that find the plot too thin.

 

I played Oblivion with that build once. I only wore some brown peasant's clothes, no helmet, and the only weapons I used were my fists and a 'magic artifact' I found as part of a questline in some mod.

I was beating Ogres to death with my bare hands at level 1 like a boss.

 

I liked Fallout: New Vegas, it took a lot of elements developed by the original team for Van Buren so it's not all that bad. Though the main story wasn't too memorable, the vaults featured in the game are as ghoulish as ever and some of the side quests were memorable (Come Fly With Me springs to mind, maybe because of the nightkin appearing out of thin air all the time and beating you to death with massive clubs). I found the first DLC - Dead Money - very creepy and very memorable; it's a mixture of all the cool sci-fi fallout goodness with what amounts to a haunted casino (not literally haunted, but haunted by holograms which may sound weird but for me it worked). It's certainly miles better than Fallout 3 in terms of story - honestly I can't think of a more boring premise for a game then purifying a region's water supply.

 

You keep ranting on how much you like Twilight and we might mistake you for Caity.

 

I've tried both Morrowind and Oblivion. Fell asleep while playing. Guess what happened next.

 

The day I like Twilight is the day I shoot myself in the head. Repeatedly.

I like vampires. I like classical vampires. I like predatory, throat ripping, subtly monstrous villians, with just enough of a veneer of humanity to differentiate them from just being a mindless undead monster vampires. Fuck Mr.Sparkles and the Sparkle brigade. And that self-centered bitch.

 

Exactly what Caity would of said.

 

You crashed the car?