Speaking out against child mutilation is now a hate crime.

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  1. Qabal

    Qabal New Member

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    Elaborate?
     
  2. Dark Elf

    Dark Elf Administrator Staff Member

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    Because for every advantage circumcision brings, I'm sure you could find a disadvantage. It's a protective sheath, it has a function, otherwise it wouldn't be there.

    If you want to do a circumcision when you're adult, go the fuck ahead and do it. But for God's sake, let the kids get old enough to decide for themselves whether or not they want to go through an irreversible surgical procedure. It's not the kid's problem that their parents hear voices in their heads.
     
  3. Xz

    Xz Monkey Admin Staff Member

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    Actually, if you get circumcised as an adult, your chance of getting an orgasm during sex drops dramatically, due to the dramatic loss of nerve endings resulting in you feeling less pleasure than you're otherwise used to. Therefore, circumcision of children is better than circumcision of adults, but let us not forget that no circumcision at all is even better.

    If you don't want an STD, be responsible and make your dick wear a helmet.

    As for the urinary tract infections, inflammations and cancer, I simply won't believe that unless you can provide several medical studies concluding so.
     
  4. Qabal

    Qabal New Member

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    Then please find me those disadvantages. I'm circumcised, and I've never regretted it, and I'm sure as shit glad that I can't remember the procedure. Hell, if you wait longer than 4 months, you need stitches, so the process becomes even worse.

    As for protection, if I ran around naked all day, I might be concerned. Just wear underwear, you'll be fine.

    Just because it's there doesn't mean it has a purpose, and if it has a purpose, it doesn't mean that purpose is remotely useful. I have several moles on my back that grew quite naturally. Would you care to tell me the purpose for those.
     
  5. Xz

    Xz Monkey Admin Staff Member

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    The purpose is to keep the glans of your penis from becoming dry, hard and insensible, so that it may be an internal organ that can come out and give great pleasure during sex.
     
  6. Qabal

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    The pleasure is great enough as it is. I already spend half the time during sex trying not to orgasm before she does. I can't imagine how hard that would be if it felt any better. That's probably more about me than you'd like to know...
     
  7. Wolfsbane

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    Just for clarification: He's not talking about the moles.
     
  8. Qabal

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    No, he wasn't talking about moles. I used moles as an example to disprove the 'if it's there, it must have a purpose' statement.
     
  9. Xz

    Xz Monkey Admin Staff Member

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    If it's there and in the same way and place in near 100% of the specimen it does have a purpose.
     
  10. Qabal

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    A quick look online, and I found few things that serve no purpose:

    -wisdom teeth
    -body hair
    -ostrich wings
    -sexual organs on dandelions (who knew?)
     
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    You mean we haven't discovered the functions of said things?
     
  12. Qabal

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    More to the point, I think these things used to have a function, but no longer.
     
  13. Xz

    Xz Monkey Admin Staff Member

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    I can assure you if you shave your arse hair you will regret it, and not just because it'll hurt when it grows back. So body hair does serve a purpose, one of them being ventilation.

    As for wisdom teeth, they don't occur in anything close to 100% of humans.

    Edit: As you say many things used to have a function, but now doesn't really serve any real purpose. Though that's not the case with foreskin.
     
  14. Qabal

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    Shaving close to the arse-hole will cause chafing, don't ask me how I know, but hair on arse-cheeks, legs, and backs do not serve the same purpose.

    So far as my research has gone, I've not found anything conclusive to link penile and prostate cancer with circumcision either way, just several contradictory articles on both sides. There have been recent studies that relate circumcision to cervical cancer and HIV though:

    http://www.reuters.com/article/healthNe ... CM20081217

    I'm done searching for now. I need to get ready to work soon. Feel free to do your own research and link it as you see fit. After what I've read, I'm a little unsure of all the health benefits of circumcision, but I still don't see it as a violation of human rights, irreversible or otherwise.
     
  15. Xz

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    I didn't oppose you on the STDs as recent studies do show a link between foreskin and HIV. But you're not safe either way, so as I said, wear a helmet.
     
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    In the rare cases of a human tail being present at birth its standard procedure to remove it, would you oppose this?
     
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    I'll point out that we circumcised our son. I was against it, on the grounds of "Oh my God, OW!!!" My husband got to make the decision, since he's a male and more inclined to know what the hell to do with man-parts. He voted for the circumcision so baby Doom will look like all the males in his family, and not feel out of place. So there's another reason for you to debate endlessly.
     
  18. Grossenschwamm

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    For one thing, I posted that after 2 in the morning. For another, everything is your fault.
     
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    Sorry to tell you this, but your husband is dumb. He seriously told you that the kid was going to get circumcised so he would fit in with the rest of the family? Unless you live on a nudist colony, I don't see this being an issue. Indeed, when the kid ends up in the school locker rooms, he's MORE likely to feel out of place.
     
  20. Archmage Orintil

    Archmage Orintil New Member

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    Yes.
    The way I figure it: If I'm legally responsible for the kids well being, and am held responsible for the kids actions, then I can chop the tip of his wang off if I want. Or not. Depends on my mood when the doctor asks.
    Being circumcised myself, I don't see the big deal. It hasn't changed my sex life. It's always been non-existent.
     
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