Charm Exploit, or "Why Everyone Loves Special People&qu

Discussion in 'Arcanum Discussion' started by krille, Oct 6, 2008.

Remove all ads!
Support Terra-Arcanum:

GOG.com

PayPal - The safer, easier way to pay online!
  1. krille

    krille New Member

    Messages:
    29
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2008
    I'm playing with UAP v081004 + UAPEXP, but it should apply to any version.

    1. Simply pick "Special Person" as your background and get the spell Charm.
    2. Now, cast Charm on whoever you want, and you will gain a nice bonus to your reaction with that person.
    3. Next, cancel Charm and you will permanently retain half of the reaction improvement. Sweet!
    4. Repeat steps 2 and 3, to further improve your reaction, as needed.

    Now this is most likely because "Special Person" (or "Mentally Retarded" as the background's called in the effect.mes comments) receives double bonus for any positive reaction, but does NOT receive twice the reaction penalty for a negative reaction. (It's this effect: goodreactionadj *2.) So, for the mere cost of -2 Int and one CP for Charm, you can permanently max out your reaction with any NPC that can be charmed! Seems pretty reasonable (as in cheap) to me, if you're into that.
     
  2. The_Deathsangel

    The_Deathsangel New Member

    Messages:
    106
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2008
    You need not special person background for this. Use a gnome, than you can use whatever background you want.
    Disadvantage is that people that resist the spell will dislike you (like the gypsies and other strong mind characters).
    Also has a bug that people sometimes react as if you already had talked to them if you use this technique... Trust me did a whole game with it, talking my way through everything.
     
  3. krille

    krille New Member

    Messages:
    29
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2008
    You don't reload? :eek:

    Anyway, yeah, that's true about the Gnome. "badreactionadj +10". Being special is much quicker (Gnome should be limited to +10 per cast, no?) and Gnomes suck. If you like Gnomes though, it's true.
     
  4. The_Deathsangel

    The_Deathsangel New Member

    Messages:
    106
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2008
    I make use of every race, and each can be made quiet powerful. Gnomes are good for spellcasting talkers.
     
  5. krille

    krille New Member

    Messages:
    29
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2008
    Quite true. No race is weaker than its player. Built right, all races should have an easy time. I mainly don't like their small frames, think they're sort of dull (that's really why they get along with everyone so well), lacking in character compared to other races and have rather uninteresting specials. While the extra Willpower is nice, for a mage, you will feel the missing Constitution, so that's neither loss nor gain.
     
  6. Archmage Orintil

    Archmage Orintil New Member

    Messages:
    586
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2007
    Not if you have the Staff of Restoration and/or Amulet of N'Tala.
     
  7. Wolfsbane

    Wolfsbane Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    4,498
    Likes Received:
    4
    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2005
    You use potions; why wait when all you have to do is click?
     
  8. Dark Elf

    Dark Elf Administrator Staff Member

    Messages:
    10,796
    Media:
    34
    Likes Received:
    164
    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2002
    I've played through the game with 6 Con elf mages. Perfectly doable. Money usually isn't an issue in Arcanum, and since wizards don't need much equipment apart from snazzy robes or smoking jackets, you can just as well fill up your inventory with them blue flasks.
     
  9. DarkFool

    DarkFool Nemesis of the Ancients

    Messages:
    4,007
    Likes Received:
    5
    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2005
    An elf? Carry things? Bah! You just need to get a half-ogre!
     
  10. krille

    krille New Member

    Messages:
    29
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2008
    I see, well that's completely contrary to my normal playing style. I absolutely hate using potions/usables in any game, as I'm such a tightwad. To me that very idea is so stigmatized it never even occurred to me that you might not see those potions as cash, but as "ammunition". That is very true, when I think about it.
     
  11. Dirtman

    Dirtman New Member

    Messages:
    305
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2007
    All of my mages are mostly built around willpower and intelligence rather than constitution. So I'm also a supporter of the take-as-many-mana-potions-as-you-can strategy.
     
  12. Dark Elf

    Dark Elf Administrator Staff Member

    Messages:
    10,796
    Media:
    34
    Likes Received:
    164
    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2002
    Even if you're a tightwad, just how difficult is it for a mage to become a master haggler?
     
  13. The_Bob

    The_Bob Administrator Staff Member

    Messages:
    892
    Likes Received:
    8
    Joined:
    May 9, 2006
    ...or you can simply steal all the potions you can carry.
     
  14. GrimmHatter

    GrimmHatter Active Member

    Messages:
    1,274
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2006
    if you're such a tightwad, then what are you doing with all the gold you're getting from quests and loot? Are you swimming around in it naked like Scrooge McDuck?
     
Our Host!