Japon population is in decline.

charles, my God can sooooo beat up your god.

 

Japes, in your own special way you're just as bad as Charles. Get over yourself. You have the right to tell anyone anything you want on the boards. It's my honest belief that the right to free speech is inalienable. You have the right to have your own opinion and voice it.

But the right to have your own opinion doesn't mean you have the right to your own facts. Everything you've said about this is either wrong or based purely on belief.

The fact is, you don't know shit about God. We all HOPE God is some loving entity, and because we need that hope so dearly, we feel it in our hearts. But none of us have any ability to understand anything about our divine creator. To even pretend that we can gauge so much as "he let's us make our own mistakes" is arrogant, because it implies that we have some insight into him.

We live. It's our responsibility how. Blaming or praising God for the action of man, or beast, or tsunami is merely a mechanism of handling our grief. I feel in my heart that God does love us, but the only thing he does, except in those rare cases where he pops his head, Mary's head, or an angel down to say hi, is wait behind his pearly white gates and let us know if we passed.

 

I have insight into the will of God because he gave it to me and everyone else in his written Word. Arrogant would be to believe that we can make our own facts, that reality is only what we perceive it to be, that there is no absolute truth, that through our actions we can become worthy to spend eternity with God. He did not give us His Word so that we would know how to be good enough to escape judgement. He gave it to us so we would see that, in our own power, we could never live up to his standards and we are all deserving of eternal damnation, that the only way to salvation is through Christ, who took our punishment upon himself. I know that I'm no better than any other person in this world. I've sinned just like everyone else, and I deserve damnation equally, but I can have confidence that my sins have been forgiven. Not through anything I've done, but through Christ.

I believe that every word of the Bible is true, therefore, I accept it as fact. If the Bible is fact, then anything contradictory to the Bible is false. To tell a person of another religion that what they believe is okay, when I know for a fact it is not, would be foolishness.

 

The biggest problem in primate house(ape,and etc of that famility) is that they are smart enought to get bore. God who is more intelllent than we are
have the same problem boredom and it worst when you know what going to happen next all the time.

 

Well, I have a slight problem with accepting the Bible as utter fact, mostly due to the fact that it isn't the only book I've ever opened.

History lesson. The Bible was written five thousand years ago. The language was ancient Hebrew. It was then translated into Ancient Greek, then Latin. No Ancient Greek scholar of that day was fully proficient in Ancient Hebrew. The modern day Hebrews cannot translate well over half of any survive Bibles written in that language. The translations to Latin from Greek are better, although still flawed.

The Bible was not translated again until King James. The same problems the Greeks faced resurface. Example: The justification for the Salem witch trials was a particular passage that King James translated regarding how a good Christian "shalt not suffer a witch." Looking at the original document, the closest anyone can come to translating the Ancient Hebrew Bible is that Christians should be wary of some form of evil. King James was an occultist, obsessed with witchcraft and pagan rituals. He added his own interpretation.

Jesus' allegeded attack on the idea of divorce is also on shaky footing. Jesus was disturbed that a Jewish man could just disavow his wife, and yet the wife could do nothing. He went to the temple and preached that some practice was wrong. No one knows whether that practice was divorce itself, or simply the woman's inability to have one on the same terms as a man.

You can argue that God somehow guided the hands of the translaters. But you already said men have free will.

To base your whole life on a novel verbatim is unabashedly foolish. At least not until you have read EVERY word in it.

You claim it arrogant for me to say there is no absolute truth? I never did. I just said it's arrogant to say there is one, because it could be sitting right in front of our faces and no one on this planet would have the mental capacity to comprehend it. God is inscrutable. Your claim to be privvy to his word is ridiculous because, being no more than a man, you are incapable of understanding his word. Therefore, fighting over words is frivolous, because all of them are meaningless except for one, and none of us can even pretend to know which one it is.

All men feel the urge to understand, it's in our nature. But we will never understand this, at least not in any amount of time that our frail flesh will reside on this Earth.

The only thing we can do, when all our books and ideas are as inherently flawed as we are, is to trust that which we feel to be true. Not what we read, not what we see, what we feel. Because, and despite all efforts of man to the prove the contrary, our hearts and our instincts are the only things that have never failed to prove good to us in the end. The more we think, the less we accomplish, or in accomplishing, we only undo those good things which following our hearts would have bolstered from the start.

 

Oh, religion:

Which one is better?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology http://scientomology.com
or
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanism http://www.churchofsatan.com/

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Personally I don't believe that God exist. Or if he exist, he is not capable to interact with "his" world. If he is able, then why don't we see the obvious signs of it? (and if he is able, then what about free will, which also includes responsibility and self-sufficiency???)

 

Meh, like all other things: I'll believe it when I see it.

 

Give me a hotdog and I can make a dog go where I want it to go. Does this mean the dog is not acting according to the instincts God gave it?

Is God then incapable making his Word understandable? Keep in mind, He's the one who created the human brain.

Anyway, we can suffice to say that you disagree with what I believe, and I disagree with everyone who doesn't believe what I believe (the basics anyway). You won't change my mind and I won't change yours, so we might as well close this case, and anyone who tries to open it will be beaten with rods.

 

Quite honestly, I have no idea what that's supposed to mean. You really are almost as bad as Charles sometimes.

I think I am arriving at the same conclusion you are, and I accept this truce. Have the metal rods on standby though, at least one stupid person abounds

 

I don't believe in god, and I believe that the belief in god is the biggest cause of suffering in the world. Christianity alone has killed more people than cancer, I don't want to think about how many have suffered and died due to all religions put together.

 

Not to mention the childrens crusade, which is not present in many history books: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children%27s_Crusade

 

Hahaha you go to heaven if you like, i'll go to valhall and drink mead and fight every day, and eat all the pork i can manage. And did i mention the valkyries?

Hey japes you are a soldier right? How does THAT go along with "thou shalt not kill" Oh wait it does not. Or maybe it does as long as you regret it. But then it is okay i guess. "our father who art in heaven, I have just sinned and killed a man. I regret it and ask for your forgiveness before I will go out there and sin some more because that is how much i care about your rules."

 

good thing you kept those rods handy...

 

I don't understand why this religion thing is such a big issue. I mean, if someone proves that nothing will be after death, will you begin slaughtering your neighbours??? Or, if someone proves that god exist, you will stop drinking, smoking, [...], just because you are afraid of hell? I think both of these things are amongst the lowest things you can do.

And, what if god exist? We will stop working, eating??? I don't think it is a good idea.


Well, look at this, I found it interesting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnostic

 

Um... What's wrong with Japan's population declining? I mean, it's Japan after all.

 

Moslim arenot allow to be in any occult. But it than witch live next door to me I must treat her is respect. In fact than witch in africa try to put than curse on God an kill God instead that night she die of than massive heart
attack.

 

In modern language the word would be 'murder,' not 'kill.' There are times when killing is justified, but not cold blooded murder. And Blinky, what I meant was that I can make a dog follow me around if I have a piece of food. He follows because he wants the food, not because I'm controlling his brain. And Charles, I'm not going to try to disagree with you this time, because I just don't know what you're talking about.

 

Moslim arenot allow to be member or practive occult ribuals. Like read horrorscropt to foretell the future in newpaper.

In than africa nation in a Christian / pagon area than pagan witch try to cast than ritual to kill God for causeing than long term drought(no rain) in the area. It would take 24 hour to compllete with the woman still being alive, when she went to bed God cause her to die of massive heart failture while she slept.

If than pagan witch moved next door to me I cannot harm her in any way because she is than witch.

 

you know, just repeating yourself doesn't make anymore sesnse than the original post.

 

That would imply that Ol' chuckle's ever made sense.