The Muslim Nation is More Worthy Than All Others

Well, the lot of todays religions are just imitations of older religions. And the elder are just a copy of the first recorded belief: The belief of the Sumerians.

 

I agree with DarkFool:

 

Yes but dear boy... you do of course see the folly in this entire study just by looking at where it was done and printed eh?

That's key-point one...
Even when I try to look at it from your perspective and with a background of your opinions and how they were formed/indoctrined within yourself... I still cannot ever judge that this study would have been un-biased.

Studies made elsewhere by a different source would have shown something entirely different.

Overall, I get the impression (and I'm not alone when thinking this)... that people from specific places/religions and backgrounds tend to adopt the general opinion generated by the works of media.
This goes for you as well, seeing as the way you try to convince some people here is by simply linking at a web-page (which turns out to be a mere summery of some thoughts and practices... not very educational).... but it also goes for some of the more patriotic americans on this board... who suffer from the same way of adopting every opinion that their federal system would like them to express.

Examples:

american example

"Hahaha!.. you cannot beat america! We could've easily taken over Iraq if it wasn't for blablablabla.."
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This example would come from a person who drew all his wisdom and opinions out of newspapers and other media which showed an extremely biased view on the war. Things that didn't fit in... were left out... so all in all this person can't express a fully biased view as he isn't presented with all the facts.

muslim example (oh yeah.. once again... this is NOT generalising people... just to point out that there ARE people who think like this and like the american above)

"The muslim faith will rule all! We have already taken over so many countries in Europe and at any time we launch the Jyhad we will conquer everything because Alah is great and the al-jazirah told me so!!!...."
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Yeah I already spoiled my own view on this in the last sentence didn't I?
This person ALSO obtained his entire view on the world from sources other than his own sensible reasoning and is therefor just as bad as those americans mentioned earlier...

I hope I'm being clear enough for you here (and for others who might learn something out of this)

 

You may be right you know. The Christian religion may well dissappear if there is a rapture (there is a lot of debate on that point of doctrine). So then the Muslims will be able to force their religion on all the nations of the world, and you will have your glorious muslim world empire, but it will be a sinking ship.

 

Read the topic "By the middle of this century". And who will be a superpower?
I bet it would be not Iordania. Maybe it would be Pakistan? Or a Great Muslim Coalition that could bury all the world?

 

From what I have been thaught in the mosque america will suffer greatly at the hands of Alah in the form of earthquakes, hurricanes and terrible race wars.This is already starting to happen... As for the muslim empire we are already 2 billions a second empire is more than likely.
For all those who claim the muslims contributed nothing to mankind's evolution here's a few examples of our contributions.
Muslims distinguished themselves not only as theoretical scientists and
scientific thinkers, but contributed through innumerable inventions to the growth of the modern sciences. Though the mediaeval Muslims had very meager resources at their command as compared to those of the present age, they achieved a great deal. They replaced the old speculative method of the Greeks with an experimental method, which in later periods formed the basis of all scientific investigations.

Inventions
Abul Hasan is distinguished as the inventor of the Telescope, which he
described to be a "Tube, to the extremities of which were attached
diopters".
The Pendulum was invented by Ibn Yunus, a genius in science who lived in the reign of Aziz Billah and Hakim bi-Amr-illah, the Fatimid monarchs of Egypt. The invention of the Pendulum led to the measurement of time by its oscillations. His outstanding work Sijul Akbar al-Hakimi, named after his celebrated patron Hakim bi-Amr-illah, was acknowledged to be the masterpiece on the subject replacing the work of Ptolemy. It was translated into Persian by Omar Khayyam in 1079.

The first watch was made by Kutbi, a renowned watch-maker of his time. During the Abbasid reign the use of a watch became quite common and the famous Harun-ar-Rashid once despatched a watch as a gift to his celebrated contemporary, the French Emperor Charlemagne. At that time a watch was considered a novel thing in Europe and was regarded as an object of wonder. Mustansariya, the well-known university of Baghdad had a unique clock with a dial blue like the sky and a sun which continually moved over its surface denoting the time. Maulana Shibli, the famous Urdu litterateur,
has described a watch of Damascus in the following words: "The watch was kept in the door of a wall. It contained copper plates and twelve doors. There was an Eagle (Bat) standing in the Ist and the last plate. At the end of each hour, these two eagles lay down on the copper plates and hence a sound was produced to show the time. At twelve all the doors were closed. This system was being repeated continuously". The construction of water clocks was also common in Islamic Countries. "The Arabs were skilful in the construction of clepsydras and water clocks with automata," says a European writer.

The invention of Mariners Compass, which revolutionised sea borne commerce and oceanic shipping and enabled the Arabs to roam over the stormy seas in quest of new lands and additional markets for their commodities, is essentially a contribution of the Muslims to the world of science. Knowledge about the properties of the needle, can no doubt be traced to Chinese sources, but putting it into working shape, in the form of a mariners' compass, was the achievement of Muslim scientists. The compass was probably invented for the purpose of finding out the Qibla for Prayers.

Mir Fatehullah Khan is known to history as the inventor of gun and
gunpowder. The presumption that gunpowder was first made by the Chinese does not stand the test of historical research. Writing in his book Arab Civilization, the author says that "gunpowder was a great invention of the Arabs who were already using guns". Guns were used by Arabs in 1340 A.D. in the defence of Al-Bahsur, when Franzdol besieged it. The statement of Dr. Leabon about the invention of gunpowder by the Arabs is further corroborated by Mr. Scott in his well-known work, History of the Moorish Empire in Spain.

It has been acknowledged by Joseph Hell in his book, Arab Civilization,
that the distinction of inventing photography goes to Ibn al-Hashem, who is not only credited with its invention but also its development. Muhammad Musa, a great scholar of geography, has the unique distinction of being the inventor of an instrument by which the earth could be measured. He also invented the "Astrolabe". These novel instruments invented by him have been preserved in the Museum of Madrid (Spain).

A unique instrument was invented by Abu Solet Umayya in 1134 A.D. through which a sunken ship would be raised--which greatly helped in the salvage expeditions of mediaeval times.

The credit for manufacturing soap goes to Arab chemists, who introduced it to the world. The first paper in Islamic countries was manufactured in 794 A.D. in Baghdad by Yusuf Bin Omar. The paper manufactured in Arab countries was of superior quality than that made in Europe. In the manufacture of cloth, Muslims particularly in Spain exhibited marvelous skill and taste. Their woven cloth captured almost all the big markets of the world and was considered to be the finest as well as extremely durable.

Al-Masudi who died in Cairo in 957 A.D. may be called the "Pliny of the
Arabs" In his celebrated work The Meadows of Gold, he has described an earthquake, and the first windmill which was also invented by a Muslim.
Giralda or "The Tower of Seville", was the first observatory in Europe. It was built in 1190 A.D., in the Spanish town of Seville under the
supervision of the celebrated Mathematician, Jabir Ibn Afiah. It was meant for the observation of heavenly bodies. It was later turned into a belfry by Christian conquerors, who, after the expulsion of the Moors, did notknow how to use it.
Bold experiments and unique innovations in the field of mathematics were carried out by Muslim mathematicians who developed this science to an exceptionally high degree. Algebra may be said to have been invented by the Greeks, but according to Oelsner, "it was confined to furnishing amusement for the plays of the goblet" Muslims developed it and applied it to higher purposes. They invented spherical trigonometry, discovered the tangent and were first, "to introduce the sine of arc in Trigonometrically Calculations" Zero is an invaluable addition made to mathematical science by the Muslims. They have also shown remarkable progress in mathematical geography.

The Muslims have made a lasting contribution to the development of Medical Science. Razi (Rhazes), Ibn Sina (Avicenna), and Abu Ali al-Hasan (Alhazen) were the greatest medical scholars of mediaeval times. Al-Razi was the inventor of "Seton" in Surgery and the author of Al-Judari wal
Hasbak, an authentic book dealing with measles and small pox. Avicenna wrote Al-Qanun Jil Tib known as Cannon, which was the most widely studied medical work of mediaevel times and was reprinted more than twenty times during the last 30 years of the 15th century in many different languages.
Alhazen was the world's greatest authority on "optics". The contagious
character of the plague and its remedies were discovered by Ibn Katina, a Moorish Physician.

Ibn Firnas is credited with making glass from stones. He had constructed his home as a sort of planetarium where one could see stars, clouds and even lightning. According to Hitti 'Ibn Firnas was the first man in Arab history to make a scientific attempt at flight. His flying equipment consisted of a suit of feathers with wings, which, we are told carried him a long distance, in the air. When he alighted, however, he hurt himself because his suit was not provided with a tail.

 

The newpaper didnot pay for the study, than international all faith group did the study. China now say it have 145 million muslim now compare to the 8 or 9 million it report in the past. The growth happen in the last 2 or 3 year. In China muslim family are allow to have 2 childern as they are a religious group that is than mininary.

By 2015 there will be slight more muslim and christian in the world, right now it neck to neck. By 2060 that muslim will be in a clear majority is correct unless than fullscale themonuclear war break out.

Superpower can be defeat as provern by history. Mongol invade the Islamist empire but 100 year later they that stay inside of Iran and Iraq(at that time Iraq was part of Iran, it only same Iraq when the Turk took it away from Iran) where muslim. The Persian Empire was defeat by the muslim in 2 or 3 battle even when they out number the muslim force 5 to 1
and have better equipment than the muslim. The muslim defeat than Eastern Roman Empire Army of 200,000 men when they have only about
20,000 to 30,000 men muslim army, than the Roman army was better equip and train than the muslim.

 

If you are going to copy text, please just quote some paragraphs, include the source and link to the full text.

If you post copy-righted or long stolen texts again I'm afraid I'll ban you.

 

Charles... while you seem educated enough in your belief I think in whole idea that Islam will one day rule the world... there is still one flaw that you haven't quite worked out yet:

Say that Islam DOES take over the world. Nations will be ruled by Islam and the western world will be gradually taken over.

Now... basicly... westerners like their freedom... their freedom of speech... their freedom of religion.. etc etc... That's what democracies are SUPPOSED to mean (save the many corrupted people in those systems as well)...

IF Islam would take over the world... it would try to force people to live by their rules and write the rules for governements to press and make the people follow.... correct me if I'm wrong... but if Islam offers an equal amount of freedom that we westeners now have, they would not rule at all... they'd just cease to be a minority.
So IF Islam would indeed want to TAKE OVER the westen world... and lay on them their rules etc etc..... can you already see what would happen?

In your calculations... you've missed the key point that, EVEN IF THERE ARE MORE MUSLIMS THAN OTHER RELIGIONS.... there will STILL be MORE OTHER PEOPLE THAN Muslims....

sooooooo... getting to the point:

We would rebel... we would reject the Islam because it would simply TRY to force it down us.... it would not give us the same amount of freedom that we have now and we wouldn't be able to choose our faith freely.

All in all... if we'd ever get the feeling that the Islam would try to get an equally strong hold on the western world as it has on it's own 'turf' ... most people I know... and most European countries and prolly america as well....... would rebel. And the lust for taking on Islam as belief would fade... and it would be driven back as religion to where it originated.

There... that clear?

 

Or, sometime in the future, the US will think the muslim as a threat to world peace and destroy them. I don't like to admit this, but the US could conquere the world if they just wanted to. It's a sad fact, but it's true.

 

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Superpower can be defeat as provern by history. Mongol invade the Islamist empire but 100 year later they that stay inside of Iran and Iraq(at that time Iraq was part of Iran, it only same Iraq when the Turk took it away from Iran) where muslim. The Persian Empire was defeat by the muslim in 2 or 3 battle even when they out number the muslim force 5 to 1
and have better equipment than the muslim. The muslim defeat than Eastern Roman Empire Army of 200,000 men when they have only about
20,000 to 30,000 men muslim army, than the Roman army was better equip and train than the muslim.[/quote][/quote]
While taking Constantinopol, muslims had much more than 20000-30000 men, maybe even the same as Vizantia had. And I think that tactic helped them, not Allah. Now the tactic wouldn't be essential, because this war probably would be nuclear or, at least, there would be a lot of transcontinental rockets.

 

What happened? Nuclear war? It can be (althought chance isn't big), and trancontinental rocket war also can take place. Unfortunately.

 

My apologies powerfull mathboy I will do as you said.

As for the end america, I believe it would have to start on the inside not some foreign power attacking it, but to colapse from the inside.
This is already starting to happen.

 

You actually believed that, didn't you?

 

But, agree, America now isn't as powerful as it was 10-20 years ago? Dollar falls drastically (maybe only in Russia, but it falls)

 

Uh, no it doesn't. Dollar's resently on the uprise, and America is still the most powerful country in the world. They've just stopped bragging about it.

 

Never forget who holds the shiny red button, for it is I.

 

power comes in many different forms. while the US is currently suffering from the beginnings of recession, and our military is over-extended in the middle east, we still are one of the most powerful, if not the most powerful, country in the world. for example, english is spoken EVERYWHERE. and not the queen's english, either. that remains a pretty good indicator of who's in charge...