The Schuylers

I'm at the point where I'm supposed to talk to the Schuylers about my ring. I've got Sogg, Virgil, Magnus, and Worthless mutt (this rocks) and ploughed (sp?) through those zombies. Now should I kill the Schuylers or talk to them (I don't wanna annoy Magnus).

Or I could talk to them, ditch Magnus, and try to get Gar (I heard you require a persuasion of 2, which I have). I'm 2 levels higher than Magnus anyway...

 

kill them you get an increase in aligmnent and a FATE point for doing the right thing
(using dwarf zombies is not really good..)
besides magnus is good and he will like you betta+5 points

 

I would say kill them. I tried resurrecting the spirit and he tells me that he won't speak to anybody but his sons. OPen the cabinets instead.

 

Jinxed I've replayed the game 3 times already but I can't get that fate point, what am I doing wrong?

 

Fate is fate I guess.

 

so it is random then, where are the other possible fate points?

 

I got another fate point when i went go down from the cemetry at Tarant.

 

Fate Pts in the game...

I as well got no fate point for doing in the Schuylers with Magnus and I tried so many variations. Him and my char together without Virgil or Sog and Mutt, different dialogue otions... No matter, sure Magnus ends up liking me +5(whoopdy doo) but ZILCH on the fate pt. BTW, for anyone who's curious, here's a list of the opportunities to get fate pts in the game as accoring to the strat guide... SPOILER below...


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Fate Pt Opportunities...

BEDOKAN VILLAGE: Sell out the Villagers there.
CALADON: Cure the werewolf.
CALADON: Half Ogre Island...(after smoking Gnome).
CALADON: Killing King Farad.
CALADON: Uncover truth behind the Panarii(Tell Alexander).
IRON CLAN: Help Magnus find his lost clan.
ISLE OF DESPAIR: Help Cythia Boggs in her escape.
QINTARRA: Clear Sharpe's name.
RANDOM: Killing the real Stillwater Giant.
SHROUDED HILLS: Rid the town of the thieves at the bridge.
STILLWATER: Become the Butcher of Stillwater.
TARANT: Betray Bates to Appleby.
TARANT: Convince Donn Throgg to escape.
TARANT: Free Gar.
TARANT: Inspire Orc Uprising.
TARANT: Kill Bates.
TARANT: Kill Donn Throgg.
TARANT: Sneak into Mansion through the tunnel.
TARANT: You and Magnus destroy the Schuylers(Pht thats bullshit, didn't work for me :sad: )
T'SEN-ANG: Free the Ogres in T'sen-Ang.
VOID: Join Kerghan.
VOORIDEN: Fix the altar in Vooriden(before Stringy Pete asks you to).
Wheel Clan: Convince Loghaire to return and be King.

So... 23 opportunities in all, that Prima found anyhow...

 

If you're a good character, you must take Magnus' side and kill those bastards. One of them has the key to their safes, so you can go on with the quest.

If you are an evil character, probably Magnus won't join you. So then it's rather reasonable to make a deal with Schuyler brothers and talk to the spirit of Polonius Schuyler, obtaining this way all the needed information.

I tried to use some diplomacy here, but I failed. You have to choose between Schuylers and Magnus. there is no third option.

 

Hehe with one point in persuasion and my smoothtalkin manner i bluffed my way past the salesman (tarant authorities! you have no right to demand anything!) then talked my way the schuylers (im good with +1 alignment hehe and still managed it) then once id spoken to the big P i killed the brothers and went back outside , magnus who said i was previously "too green" now joined me

wheres this dog and other followers come frem? only lvl8 and doing the zombie dungeon with just me and virgil was a strain , esp when i tried to pull zombies one by one or two and halfway back to my fight spot virgil runs out to it and aggros the ones in the holes argh
[edit was 6 when i went into the dungeon]

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: darksider on 2001-09-18 07:27 ]</font>

 

And so I see my lucky number! G!

 

Well if you could make it all work I believe its 24... In shrouded hills you can get two from the thief.. First persuade them to leave (that's 1) then kill them (another fate point)... Okaaaay, Its kinda like cheating but since I didn't get 1 from Schuyler and also from Cynthia Boggs, I guess its fair, Rightttt?

So friend_al_23, its not your lucky number anymore, heh :smile:

 

Well if you cheat, it doesn't count. So I still have my lucky number! :grin:

 

Everyone who writes for Prima is an idiot and here's proof - you can get 2 fate points for the bandits in shrouded hills by mining their exit path with spike traps and then persuading them to leave. You get one point at the end of the conversation and another when they blow themselves up on the way out.

Probably a bug, but real gamers find stuff like that. Prima don't have any real gamers. Every one of their strategy guides I've read has been full of innacurracies and poor advice.

 

So that's why i got 2 fate points! I thought it was because after I finish the quest for Constable Owens. Yes, I remember killing them after persuasion. thanks for pointing this out. :wink:

 

I gaot a fate point at theshuuyers when I almost made and agrement with them and then said to magnus, that "what am ia saying? youre right charge!" and killing them

 

Well, it's already indicated above. :smile:

 

really? I don't always read all of the post since some are damn long.

 

I try to. Bubba always take notice. Have you read that one?

 

no, what?