Virgil, What do you think?

Even though I generally play tech, and he is thus useless. I keep him around for the story.

 

Yeah, usually I play a loner so I never bother to pick him up. I never play an evil character so that does not come in handy either. I say he's neutral.

 

Resurrected Virgil is good to have around, I've seen him actually casting Harm. He is also the only avaliable healer follower for an evil mage (evil techies can use medical arachnids).

 

Personally i think just coming out and saying that you want more people to post in a thread is the worst possible way to get them too...

But anyway my heart goes out to you so I'll help you out with my opinion, I keep virgil around for the story, even though i usually play techie characters. If I ever played as a mage i'd probably love him.

 

When I'm a loner I sometimes keep him to carry my stuff. It's really annoying to have to carry all of your own stuff. He heals you too, so I keep him when I'm not going to be my all powerful Half-Ogre destroyer.

 

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Was the above an example of "leet speak?" If so, it's horrifically gay. Virgil's voice irritates the hell out of me. "That's the way to get those basta--I mean good hit, sir!" Other than that, he's a great healer character. Even when I play as a techie, I usually have non-tech characters in my party, so he's good for keeping them healthy. By the way, where does the whole Virgil Sheep-fetish thing come from? I never saw anything about that in the game, just the sheep at Madam Lil's, which is a little disturbing.

 

Can I fall on the floor laughing while laughing my head off? This would create the illusion of a headless corpse chuckling to some extent, in which you, the readers, shall laugh at. Like "hey mom! im gonna go see the headless guy down the street!" "okay timmy be careful! hes a dangerous man, with those groping hands and such!"

 

he rocks

 

Virgil can be a royal pain in the rear, but he's necessary to the storyline, so I keep him around for that. He's also kind of helpful to most of my characters at the very beginning since I've been playing small characters who need helpers. However, I've edited his level progression to eliminate that obnoxious pick lock and substituted an increase in strenght and fixed an error in it that had him increasing one stat twice to the same level, then added Resurrect to his spells that he gains, so MY version of Virgil is not exactly "stock."

The stock version of Virgil really should be updated to fix that error. If anyone is interested, I'm willing to put out a fixed version of the file that only fixes that and adds Resurrection or I can make my version of the gamelevel.mes available.

 

Nobody is necessary to the storyline. If you don't like him just get rid of him, then we wouldn't have so many people complaining about how annoying he is.

By removing his lockpick skill, aren't you increasing his MA and thus making him a more powerful follower?

What error? The Dodge 4 thing? Well it's rather like the lockpick issue. Can you remove or replace it without making him more powerful? If so, what would you replace the removed skills with that would still be in character? Giving him resurrect, again, would increase his MA, and I'm not sure if it's in character anyway.

What I'd really like to do is to put Zen Virgil back in the patched game, but I'm rather stuck on how to do it at the moment. The usually helpful Sierra boards have been disturbingly silent on this issue.... :-(

 

Zen Virgil is IN the patched game. At least, he's in mine and I didn't do anything to add him.

As for making Virgil more powerful, I haven't seen that it has really made that much difference. He still has to build up the necessary prerequisites to be able to add those skills and that takes time and experience. About the only real effects I've seen is that it makes him a slightly better healer, a slightly better fighter because he can use a heavier weapon, and it keeps him out of my way when I want to pick a lock. So, just fixing the Dodge 4 error would not have any real effect on him except to allow him to eventually get Resurrect which would only benefit YOU or your other party npcs. It's a bit hard to cast resurrect on yourself when you're dead, :lol: so it can't benefit Virgil.

 

What is Zen Virgil?

 

You are either not patched, or modded, or seriously mistaken. In the patched game Virgil is simply teleported from Tsen Ang to the Sobbing Onion, retaining his levels, items, and leveling scheme. In the unpatched version your Virgil is destroyed to be replaced with a new level 25 Virgil without any of his items and with an entirely new leveling scheme. Are you saying you actually get the level 25 Zen Virgil in the patched game? :/

 

Now there's Evil Virgil? How do these divers incarnations come about?

P.S. Sorry about the random bit of 19-century English (divers). Been reading Last of the Mohicans, which was written in Anno Domani 1826, so the language is extremely flowery and old-fashioned. A great read.