America unprepair for Iraq insugent war.

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  1. CharlesBHoff

    CharlesBHoff New Member

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    America and her Zionist ally might not think they start than religious war.
    They fail to take in how the Muslim might see as than religious war. I will refuse to be draft in the America military or aid America in any way.

    There are now some 1.5 billion Muslim in the world so 15% of then is 225,000,000 million muslim hostile to america. They act as than reserse for the muslim Freedom fighter. America military force are useing up they reserse forces in Iraq.
     
  2. DarkUnderlord

    DarkUnderlord Administrator Staff Member

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    Let's just face the truth here. If this really started a whole Muslim vs Christian thing, the Christian's would win. Pure and simple. It's not as if any Muslim countries have actual weapons they can defend themselves with and even if they do get a few nukes ala North Korea and they use them, then we'll simply remove them as a geographical location from the map.

    6 nukes that probably don't have ICBMs to carry them could take out what? 6 cities at most? That leaves another shedload of cities in the US alone plus the ENTIRE UNITED STATES NUCLEAR MISSILE ARSENAL (which, quite rightly, is scattered strategically around the US) to retaliate with. Throw in Britain's and possibly even Germany's and the French (both of which would be under enormous pressure to intervene to either prevent full-scale war or pick a side) and you've got a lovely bunch of coconuts.

    September 11 was a terrible disaster. So is the Iraq war (which I personally believe in the long term may not accomplish much - given Saddam was supported by the US so theoretically any other regime put in place by the US won't necessarily be "our friends" in 20 years time either). However, both of those and anything else the terrorists can do pale into insignifigance when you think about what the retaliation might be.

    I read once that the 9/11 attacks were originally going to include flying planes into nuclear power stations as well as possibly flying planes loaded with chemical weapons over American cities. Apparently the reason Osama didn't do that was because he was concerned of the damage that might be wrought and the possible consequences.

    You think the US is going to let Pakistan stay in the way if Osama really tries something on a major scale?

    I believe a majority of Muslim's don't agree with American foreign policy. Hey, you know what? I don't particularly agree with much of it either. The problem is not every Muslim in the world is some kind of rage against the machine lunatic willing to risk life and limb to prove himself in some deformed way to Allah. God knows I wouldn't strap on bombs and blow up some Australiaj politicians just because I don't agree with them. In the end, it doesn't accomplish much of anything, if at all. It also simply galvanises / polarises (take your choice of words) both sides against each other.

    In a world in which the West has most of the weapons, in which a nation of 20 million people in the Middle East can be overcome in less than three months (barring small insurgent groups whom we can't carpet bomb) and in which, at the end of the day, if push came to shove would result in a no-win situation for all, why on Earth would anyone think they had a chance opposing military force with military force? (Incidentally, that goes both ways)
     
  3. chuft

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    Islam exists at this point solely due to American restraint and the good nature of the American people. Piss us off enough and the gloves come off. The people of Hiroshima and Nagasaki know that.

    A requirement of every Muslim is to make a haj to Mecca at some point. H-bombs "salted" with cobalt could turn the entire area into a radioactive parking lot for centuries. Anyone who tried to go there would die. The Islamic religion would crumble.

    Radical Muslims, like the nationalistic Japanese in 1941, are playing with fire, and if they keep it up, are quite likely to get burned.
     
  4. chuft

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    There is no draft at present, but if there was, what you are talking about really would be a crime, unlike, say, running a roleplaying game about the Crusades.
     
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    Yeah, bomb the place and you'll have not just the radicals but the entire muslim world against you. If 15% of muslims thinks that blowing things up is the way then think what will happen when all of them will start thinking that way.
     
  6. chuft

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    If the impotence of "Allah" was clearly demonstrated by nuking his most holy site, and the haj can no longer be complied with, making it impossible to fulfill the requirements of the religion, I suspect a lot of Muslims would, like followers of defeated religions thoughout history, decide to abandon the weaker belief system in favor of the conqueror's.
     
  7. CharlesBHoff

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    Islam exsit long before America was a nation and long after America is defeat. If America use nuke weapon against a Holy Cities America doesnot
    hornor the treaty it sign which say you cannot target holy cities and place with nuclear weapon. Russia and China military forces are holding joinst war game together. France and Germany would be happy to see America destory and they wouldnot help America at all. Pakistian have more powerful nuclear weapon than the 10 kiloton ones they test in 1990's, plus two of then where Pu239 base nuclear weapon. We illegality stop France from giveing Pakistian tech to reclaim sent nuclear fuel, they got that tech either from the Chinese of North Korea, in return Pakistian gave both tech on how to enrich Urainium and seperate U-235 from U-238. There are rumour that China gave Pakistian H-Bomb tech. Plus the SECOND DEPARTMENT gave Pakistian some advance Tech which America doesnot have. Saudic Arabic have Chinese built ICBM and nuclear weapon already as Pakistian gave Saudic Arabic nuclear weapon to put on then and they are H-bomb not atomic bomb. Iran have nuclear weapon since 1987 as Pakistian have nuclear weapon since 1987 also. Why test your latest nuclear nuclear weapon just to show that you have them just test the one which you are going to take apart to built more powerful one.

    How would you like to haul before than warcrime court where your action will be judge and you and your entire family execute for warcrime.
     
  8. CharlesBHoff

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    Very wishiful thinking on your part. We can name two other places holy site and do the Haj there. There is than qoutes from Allah that say it doesnot matter at all if a believer pray in the wrong direction as long as he pray with a sincer heart. Our holy month of fasting have a fix day when it start or end in case the beliver cannot see the moon to see the start and end of the Holy month of fasting. It seem like you donot understand religious belief at all.

    To pove my point than Muslim rode in the space shuttle and said his prayer without haveing to change the direction he faces which was changeing very minutes for the 15 minutes he sent praying.
     
  9. chuft

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    You seem to share the belief of madmen throughout history - that somehow your beliefs are enough to overcome the material strength of a more powerful enemy.

    It doesn't work. Ask the Imperial Japanese or the Nazis - or the Taliban.

    America lost an office building and in return has destroyed the governments of two entire Muslim countries. Pray that no more attacks against Americans on American soil are successful, or we might really get pissed off and do something a tad more drastic.
     
  10. CharlesBHoff

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    Chaft if America have to use nuclear weapons it show it lost the ability to win than non-nuclear war. Plus no religion was never destory by military mean read up on history you might learn something. France didnot end the 30 year war in Germany between Prot and Rome Cathor it just enable
    then to reach than peaceful end. They just needed than excuse to end the fighting both side can blame the French for forceing then to stop fighting.

    Right now America are useing they reserse forces to fight in Iraq instead of holding them in reserse to be use when needed. Hilter lost the Russian war at city name after the Soviet leader. First that city have no real inportant military value. To get the manpower to captice the city in bloodly hand to hand and room to room fighting Hilter foolish order all reserse units on the Russia front use and they where not replace. So when the Soviet launch than massive attack on weak minor axile military unit the Russian Front have no reserse unit to strenght these units or stop the Soviet units from surround the city an the Germany 6th Army than elite army.
     
  11. Sea Dog

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    I don't think America would really consider nuking any holy sites that belonged to jews and muslims, especially if they need the good guy image more than ever. And you forget about Roman-conquered jews. Impotence of Allah my arse.

    The Vikings only 'tolerated' other religions because they 1) didn't care about what other religions existed and 2) They benefitted from the trade of these people so why kill them or banish them? They 'tolerated' Christianity because the abbeys had expenisive artefacts.

    Now I know you're playing with poor boy Charles.

    For obvious economic reasons France and Germany do not wish the destruction of America. How can you speak for these people anyway you're an American muslim. And Chuft's family is never going to be executed for something that he does unless the unspeakable happens and Islam and its horrible laws take over the West.

    No, no you're wrong (sorry to go back to the Romans but they just kicked so much arse) The Romans stamped out gallic religion through force (military means). First they accepted the religion, true, following the idea of assimilating them gentley. But then they restricted worship and finally when Rome became Christian they completely stamped out the Gaul's religions and Christianized them. Those are miliary means. Invasion, occupation, conversion and assimiliation.



    America has huge amounts of reserve forces and conscription if need be.
    Hitler lost the War, not just the war in Russia on two fronts and it never really mattered what he achieved if the US got nuclear weapons first. Stalingrad did have strategic importance, it stood between the German army and Russia's Industrial heart. They needed to secure it. Also Hitler DID NOT order reserves which were not part of the 6th army. The army fighting in Stalingrad. Plus a strengthened line couldn't have made a difference after Russia got its balls back and organized its miliary might, maybe the British and the US would have gotten to Berlin first but the war was still lost. My point is, Germany lost the war when it declared war on America and Russia, more particularly Russia.
     
  12. CharlesBHoff

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    Viking as pagon where tolant of other religious as most pagon faith where.
    Than religion that is widespead like Islam isnot easy wipeout. The European power try very hard in the 19th and 20th century to do so.

    The Germany Hight Command want to security Russian Oil Field in Sorthern Russia and then take Stalingrad later on. Hilter did order all Russian front reserve units use in a battle for Stalingrad. Stalin sent than surrend doc to be deliver to the Hilter which got lost in Nov 1941.
     
  13. CharlesBHoff

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    Bush miss than good way to get good will in South Asia by waiting 3 day to sent notes saying how sad that many people die in the tidal wave that hit the area. Our offer of 10 million dollar aid in the beginning was stringing, it would have been 100 billion dollar instead.
     
  14. Dark Elf

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    You say it as if it was a bad thing.

    You'll so miss out on Valhalla, dude.
     
  15. Qilikatal

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    In fact most of the first christians who came into the viking lands with the sole plan to save all the viking souls, were taken as slaves, the ones that did sucess was traders and warriors.

    Now here is an question to mister nuke-mekka do you think that if jerusalem was nuked that the jews would instantly stop beliving in jehova?

    You sound like Carl I Hagen.
     
  16. CharlesBHoff

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    No they just will cry alots about how badly they are being mistreated. Yetr they go around mistreating other people it seem like they never learn anything.
     
  17. CharlesBHoff

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    It would have being better it they convert to Islam.
     
  18. Qilikatal

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    Charles you mental weapon of mass destruction, may you suffer from explosive diareha for an enternity, the question was not pointed to you, you dumb ignorant sheep-shagger. He is really annoying sometimes.
     
  19. CharlesBHoff

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    The Iraq Intelligent Ministry report there are 40,000 full time insurrent fighter and 200,000 part-time fighter. They control some area of Baghdad, some rural areas and many villages and towns. Our attack against that city in Iraq wasnot the big sucess we are makeing it out to be
    in America. In fact many of the retire Generals in America called it a total failure.
     
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