As I read through Muro's Neutral, Magick, Tech and...? thread, I got to wondering: What makes an item inherently tech or neutral? Mechanical-discipline items are most certainly technological in many aspects, as are all the tech disciplines, though the one that got me the most confused is the Smithy discipline. Sure, many items in this discipline make sense to be technological, like the Mechanized Hammer, but what of the neutral and magical weaponry? Surely they must have been smithed at some point. You could easily explain Magickal items - they're enchanted, but what about neutral items? If it's about complexity, then why is unsmithed Steel technological? Surely it could be explained by it being refined by technology, but what about Iron ore? It is still in a completely natural state at the time, so why would the all-natural ores be defined as technological while a simple sword or dagger could be defined as neutral (Especially while the steel used to make them would be defined as technological, no less.) What are your opinions on this matter?