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  1. CharlesBHoff

    CharlesBHoff New Member

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    I hate to say this than full scale themonuclear war useing the big H-Bombs compare to the little Atomic Bombs will cause than global nuclear winter allover the world due to dust, smoke being blowing up into the hight
    statshepe or possible low orbit around Earth.
     
  2. Sleek_Jeek

    Sleek_Jeek New Member

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    "we as a nation" meaning "you (blinky) as yourself(also blinky)."
     
  3. toller

    toller New Member

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    American defence spending caused the Russians to exit the modern warfare business. Defence spending has advance our medical capabilities, brought new capability to high tech industry and provides for 30% jobs in U.S, Canada, Australia, England, France, Italy, Spain, Germany, Netherlands, ect. too many to put here.

    Missle defense is a replacement for "like reaspons". Right now if someone lauched a missle from containor ship 12 miles out to sea we would not be able to respond to the threat. Once missle defence is working then groups trying to affect us will have to look elsewhere for a way to atack the U.S.
     
  4. CharlesBHoff

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    America is on the verge of being bankburpy. We will need over 50 trillion dollar to met all the social security, medicare, law enforcement, military and other function of government in the future. There are other way to attack america without useing missiles. The KGB have undetectable suitcase size nuke alltheway up to 500 kiloton. Regulator nuclear weapon in America and USSR where make to be easier to detect if lost or solen by someone. Al Qaeda have ten suitcase nukes already and the capurity to make more. If you want to reality harm america one 500 KT nuke go off around Wall Street New York City it will also take out the New York Federal Resere Bank too. Than other 500 KT go off by the UN building.
    Two 500 KT bomb for Washington DC one near the main military headquater of America know as the Pentagon and the other one between the White house and Congress. Dallas- Fort Worth area have a huge Liquidise Natural Gas Tank Farm cover over 3 square miles of area one 500 KT nuke there will wreck havos on the nutaral gas in America. One 500 KT nuke by the Stragetic Oil Reserse will wipe out the oil america needed to fight than war. One 500 Kt nuke by Hoover Dam will stop electical generate of power to than huge area plus drink water to the whole southwest of america. One each in LA and San Francisco will hit cultureal target in america, two in Alaska one by the terminal where tankers pick up the oil from Alaska and the other right at the oil wells feild in Alaska. Than who will you relate against since al Qaeda isnot than nation you can attack, it can be anywhere on Earth it can even be in Austalia or New Zealand.
     
  5. Sleek_Jeek

    Sleek_Jeek New Member

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    FUCK YOU! Bankruptcy in the name of industry, and warfare is the american way!
     
  6. Jarinor

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    The US DoD does not provide for 30% of all jobs in Australia. I call bullshit on you!

    America is not the world, Charles.
     
  7. CharlesBHoff

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    Foreign Nation hold 70% of USA debts, I didnot incllude America trade inbalance debt along with the national debt on which how many time did Bush have to have congress raise the ceiling on. At least Bill Clinton was reduceing the national debt than running budget surplus most of his 8 years. Read What We've Lost by Graydon Carter How the Bush Administration Has Curtailed Our Freedoms, Mortgaged Our Economy, Ravaged Our Environment, And Damaged Our Standing In The World.
     
  8. CharlesBHoff

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    The Nuclear Winter when it happen when the big 1 megton to 25 megton H-Bombs are use will be worldwide in effect. That cloud of smoke, dust and partiale will stay in the Statshepe for many years. Plus than 20 megton H-Bomb can cause fires to breakout on a large scale more than 90 miles away from ground zero, the EMP pulse can travel up to 1500 miles away from ground zero. Around ground zero even concrete can burn.
     
  9. Qilikatal

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    Once missle defence is working then groups trying to affect us will have to look elsewhere for a way to atack the U.S.[/quote]
    They allready have, remember 11 september?
     
  10. CharlesBHoff

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    They allready have, remember 11 september?[/quote]

    If al Qaeda have nuke then it would have being worst.
     
  11. Jarinor

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    As opposed to the non-foreign nations which hold the other 30% of debt? America owes itself 30% of itself?
     
  12. CharlesBHoff

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    I rechech foreign now hold 80% of USA debt. The almost 8 trillion dollar (offical , unoffical alot hight counting future SS cost and etc) is 37% of GNP, during LBJ Vietman war and Great Societry it was only 4%.
     
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    Actually, multi-megaton-sized weapons have pretty much been phased out of the U.S. arsenal. Even 1 megaton weapons are the minority by far.

    http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Usa/Wea ... ngall.html

    Here's an interesting blurb on the effect of this reduction of warhead size:

    "The megaton class weapons that were developed in the US and USSR during the fifties and sixties have been largely retired, being replaced with much smaller yield warheads. The yield of a modern strategic warhead is, with few exceptions, now typically in the range of 200-750 kt. Recent work with sophisticated climate models has shown that this reduction in yield results in a much larger proportion of the fallout being deposited in the lower atmosphere, and a much faster and more intense deposition of fallout than had been assumed in studies made during the sixties and seventies. The reduction in aggregate strategic arsenal yield that occurred when high yield weapons were retired in favor of more numerous lower yield weapons has actually increased the fallout risk. "
     
  14. CharlesBHoff

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    They can as easlier take them out of retirement. China use multmegton H-Bomb in it warhead. The Planetary Bluster I was talking bout make than hole in the ground 4000 miles in diameter and 2000 miles deep in all apart
    of ground zero. That why I cannot give you than number we use to measure nuclear bomb. That ground zero there are other zone like the primary blast zone, secondary blast zone, 3rd degree burn zone, 2nd degree burn zone,1st degree burn zone, and the varies radiation doses zones.
     
  15. CharlesBHoff

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    This is the Anti-missile System for ICBM and IRBM theate weapn. The Arrow missile Defence System would do no better. There are way to defeat any ABM system that cost less money to have than ABM system defeat them.
     
  16. CharlesBHoff

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    When than Planetary Buster is fire from than heavy capital Star Ship or Space Ship it have beam weapons and force field as well as electron countermeasure to defeat ABM system. It is also setup to explose the nuclear warhead it than ABM hit it. That why Antinuclear explosion fields where devolp.
     
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    It could. Than PBM take up 250 displacement ton(250 cubic meter).
     
  19. Blinky969

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    Let's try this...

    Charles, glaaa du nob turmek nodrempin dyaaaa. x'rilka norta, nuuut Relkod. Fwerk.
     
  20. CharlesBHoff

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    The Planetary Buster Missile is than unmanned spacecraft with than contant speed right from the start of 25,000 miles/second. It launch from 250,000 miles away from Earth it would take 10 seconds to reach Earth. Earth radar it where capable of picking it up would only detect it when it is 100 miles away and you would have 0.004 second to do anything.
     
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