U.S. acting as "preacher" of human rights

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  1. Drog Alt

    Drog Alt Member

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    U.S. urged to stop acting as "preacher" of human rights

    http://english.people.com.cn/90001/9077 ... 46696.html
     
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    Yes, China cares about human rights. Just ask Liu Xaiobo who won the Nobel Peace Prize for two decades of non-violent struggle over human rights, infuriating China, which called the award "an obscenity." Or his wife Liu Xai who has been under house arrest and not allowed contact with the outside world for the last 6 months (to my knowledge she hasn't been released), without charges brought against her. Or ask the dead at Tiananmen Square.

    It's hilarious that America still preaches human rights though after the gross violations of human rights at Guantanamo Bay and Abu Ghraib.
     
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    I sometimes think the humans rights angle is just a media friendly excuse for their imperialism.

    I mean, the US tends to favour any fucker who can get them oil, and damn the human rights record.

    They won't stop preaching human rights as long as it is the most useful oil on their propaganda machine.

    I mean, hasn't history already agreed that George W cheated in the 1st election and will be remembered as a war-criminal?

    I envy the US their constitution, it's just a shame that the powers-that-be shit on it in practice.
     
  5. magikot

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    The moment the blasted US politicians started referring to the Constitution as a living document was when they started seeking out ways to kill it.
     
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    I was under the impression that all politicians, regardless of nationality, were liars and thieves. Or can someone here hold up as a shining example a nation whose leaders seek nothing but justice and equity for all?

    The measure of a good politician is how good he is at hiding his crookedness.
     
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    Yeah, like that fucking Martin Luther King guy.

    Or Gandhi.
     
  9. Dark Elf

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    I certainly wouldn't call those guys career politicians. Wasn't Gandhi practically an ascetic hindu monk? That's a pretty far cry from the suits discussed in this thread.

    Politicians invariably thirst for power and should be kept in a tight leash. Good servant, poor master and all that.
     
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    US did the wrong thing by poking at China, an industrial superpower. And finally got called out.
     
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    Now proven by *science*.
     
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    This one was a great read.
    And interesting conclusion is that lie detectors don't work with the worst of the bunch.
     
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    Apparently, conservatives are wussies. Wussy conservatives, stop preachin'.

    EDIT: Gotta disagree with the implication in this paragraph.

    The article states itself that there is no point in passing on the dice, so is it more a false sense of insecurity the powerless feel?
     
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    Insecure, perhaps, in another's ability to roll. That's Cracked for you; smarter and funnier than Mad. So there's a psychological reason people in charge act the way they do, and a psychological reason liberals and conservatives tend to be on opposite sides. Still doesn't change the fact that unless someone does something about it, we'll be stuck doing what our leaders want of us, rather than what we choose to do. I'm tired of the president reaching out to help other countries...our dollar is only worth 4 cents! But, I suppose he's done enough to help America out, right?
     
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    I would imagine that, from the point of view of the first article, a person of such inclinations would be the very person (s)he's rising up against; and if not, the very act of doing it would alter the person to conform to that particular paradigm.
     
  16. Grossenschwamm

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    According to a Taoist point of view, those above should serve those below, since Water, being one of the most powerful things on the earth, always takes the lowest place. I will never be "given" power, nor will I ever "take" such power. I will be like water, which serves the ten thousand things and does not contend.
     
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    The solution is simple. Create an artificial intelligence sophisticated enough to govern, and give all decision making control to it.
     
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    And robots to enforce its will. It's got my vote.

    Foolish flesh-forms have fucked the planet enough.
     
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    *insert meatbag joke here*

    I wonder why politicians never seem to get along. Here in Belgium we've had long periods without a government because of the way Belgian politics work: the people who speak Dutch don't want to speak French, and the people who speak French don't want to speak Dutch.
     
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    I for one would welcome our new robot overlords.


    Justice is one of the "leagues" that could be easily replaced by a computer system.
    That would indeed make it fair by just sticking to the facts.

    Medicine is another area that while not passable of being replaced, can be much aided by computers.

    And as for politics, replacing them completely by a computer system would not be possible due the nature of unexpected events. But several tasks could be automated and controlled by them.
    On another note, democracy was created in Greece where only a certain group of individuals was allowed to vote. These guys were on the same level of education, so even though there were favor exchanges there was no sheeple brainwashing.
    Giving power to the people, in a way that major decisions would be taken by voting, would require for them to be informed.
    Also, one important change people could do would be to start looking at the numbers instead of listening to speeches.
     
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