Turn Based Games

if it wasn't announced as the sequel, why did you expect it to follow the same storylines? they never claimed it was an RPG, hell, the word Tactics is in the title. and it was set in the same universe, just in a different part of it. same graphics, same menus, same controls, only thing really different was the type of game it was. and i'm sorry if your crappy comp couldn't handle the pressure, but the game was just fine on my machine.

 

If you haven't tried it out, I recommend that you play Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri. I think it's one of the best, if not the best strategy game ever made. It's also completely turnbased.

 

This wouldn't really fit into Jagged Alliance 2.(Which btw, didn't make sense being present in FO anyway) Short dropoff animation was already persent in JA2.

Perhaps higher resolutions, but overall, the artistic quality was sloppy and full of errors.

Some of the perks don't work even after the latest patch.

 

floyd:

First, I haven't expected any of the aforementioned balance issues, bugs, performance problems, lags, code-errors and such.
It was a painless experience for me.

It is different than Fallout, of course, but it's still the same world. Actually it's a sequel to Fallout 1, in another place, so it has almost naught to do with F2.

Sure, they added Real Time (which is still based on Turn-Based rules) but you can always play in Turn Based. After all, it's a pain in the ass to sneak in turn-based.

I can understand you being a hardcore Fallout fan so you must understand that we, non hardcore fallout fans, think that F:T is a good game. If it's not fallout, it doesn't mean it should be bad.

Personally, I think of F:T as a mix between Commandos (my favorite tactical game) and Fallout.

 

I'd also consider myself a pretty hardcore Fallout fan, but I enjoyed playing FO:T for the same reason I enjoy watching action movies - despite what the box SAID, Micro Forte set out to make a squad-based tactical combat game, and as such, I had a good time playing it. They weren't trying to make a Jagged Alliance 3, or a Fallout 3, they were just making a tactical combat game. If you strip away the whole "OMFG, the Brotherhood so wouldn't do that!" crap, and just played it as a fucking game, instead of a personal insult from the developers to your Fallout altar, then you might have had some fun.

Action movies don't pretend to be deep and meaningful, they're just there for people to have a good time watching. It's the same for Tactics - despite what it was marketed as by Interplay, MF made what was, in my opinion, a fairly solid tactical combat game. No, it wasn't perfect, it wasn't the best game in the genre, but it was entirely possible to have fun playing it and ignore the tragedies it inflicted upon the Fallout universe.

 

The only fallout game I've played is Fallout Tactics and I thought it was good for an older game. I patched it and have had no bugs or probles with framerate.

I resent being called a moron you commie, vegetarian, die-hard-fucking nerd

 

Jeez: because the box says so, for crying out loud ("set in the award-winning Fallout Universe", remember?). The only thing you prove by saying what you are saying is that you don't have a clue what "setting" means.

It was announced as a squad-based tactical game, true. But that doesn't mean they had to mess up the setting. That's like making a sequel to Lord of the Rings in which the dwarves start using uzi's. No fan of LotR would ever accept such an anomaly.

You really don't get it, do you? Setting? Look it up in the dictionary. And consult the Fallout Bible while you're at it. The storyline of Fallout Tactics has nothing to do with the Fallout Universe, trust me.

I've got a P4 with 512RAM and a MSI FX5950 Ultra. And guess what? It still runs crappy. The framerate problem is a known problem, by the way, due to a poor engine (lazy developers). Maybe both of you need a (new) pair of glasses. My guess.

Vehicles?! Vehicles?! One of the most important facts about the whole Fallout Universe is that there isn't any fuel left! And the vehicles in Fallout Tactics run on fuel! Not on Energy Cells like in Fallout 2 but on goddamn fuel (look at the exhaustion fumes when you drive a car). Again: a serious anomaly in the setting. Blasphemy, sheer blasphemy! :x

 

dude, it's just a game. don't get your panties in a twist.

 

And I've got a P3 666MHz with a Hercules Geforce 2 GTS.
Maybe your overpuffed ego needs a new brain?
Seriously, you are flaming US because YOU are so obsessed with Fallout that you cannot bear any company but BIS to make a Fallout game. Should I remind you that Fallout 2 was NOT made by the full original Fallout 1 team and that actually it was Troika (then working in BIS) to make the first Fallout?
You like the game? Good. You don't like the game? Well, it isn't a reason to trash everyon who likes the game just because it wasn't made by BIS.

 

Fallout Tactics was okay when I played through it, not caring abut the Fallout Univers, it was some years ago, I was stupid and not very good at english, so I didn't really know what was wrong/how wonderfull Fallout 1 is.

I also felt Fallout 2 was better because I thought some jokes were fun, plus it was longer. There I blame my ignorance on not being very well versed in popular culture, I'm still not, but I've watched the long lists of easter eggs, feeling all the fun being slowly taken away from me as it didn't really fit.

Fallout 1 was the only true game, it didn't break the rules of the universe like the other three games. And it didn't contain lots of stupid easter eggs, like 2 and Tactics, there were like two or three in the whole game.

 

As if I didn't know that, DATD. And some went to Obsidian. D'uh! What's your point? There were enough people involved on both projects to preserve most of the continuity. And get this: I could rant about Fallout 2 as well. Too much easter eggs and popular culture references, for instance (to make it more appealing for brainless teenagers). And what about the Enclave, eh? Going cyber-punk, are we? *rant, rant, rant*

On a sidenote: I really hope Troika will make Fallout 3!

And look people: I don't want to flame anyone here and sorry if you think I did. I'm glad you guys enjoyed Fallout Tactics, because that's what gaming should be all about. But just don't start saying that it's a Fallout game (set in the Fallout Universe), because it isn't. I made the comparison with the LotR movies: if you're a big fan of something, you should understand my point.

Let's say Troika sells the Arcanum license to... uhm... Bioware, and Bioware turns it into an RTS with modern weaponry and Star Wars lightsabers... eh? You'd hate that as well, wouldn't you? :/

 

Fun? Oh yeah, you take drugs and run around shooting everything that moves?

Troika doesn't own the license.
I want a totally new game!

 

Troika doesn't own the Arcanum license? That's new... Who owns it then? :-?

(P.S. If you were referring to the Fallout license: I know IPLY has it. But I do so hope they sell it to Troika (now that IPLY is no more and Hervé needs money bad). Or Obsidian. But preferably Troika.)

 

Isn't it Sierra who owns the license?

I too want a new game, then they won't destroy an old universe, sequels suck.

 

Mathboy's got it.
Troika simply does all the work, the producer owns the license.

 

I'd want a new game too but the I like Arcanum's steampunk setting.

BTW, I got JA2 Gold which I don't need, if anybody's interested.

 

See my previous post: I liked it as a tactical combat game, not a Fallout one. I know it fucked with the universe, the story line, the world at large, and prehistoric history, but as you point out, it's a game, and as such, meant to be fun.

And for the record, I don't remember encountering any bugs or framerate problems, and I was playing on a decidedly average machine.

 

Hell yes I would

I wish that was my life you just described :cry:

 

You are absolutely mistaken. Dwarves armed with modern weapons would rule. Imagine Gandalf riding in the back of Hummer, blasting the hell out of rifle-toting Orcs with his flame spells, while Frodo watches his back with an M2.

 

I didn't write that.
It was floyd