ToEE Survivor

Just a few days ago I started playing ToEE the way I planned from the start, Ironman.

I must say, even though I've finished the game a couple of times, this mode is truly a challange. I had to restart the entire day. I kept getting killed along the way. But I'm not playing it easy, no way. I'm playing an EVIL ironman. Yes, I'm doing things that can get me killed on an everyday basis with no saving at all. That said, I'm not doing any good "help out the townsfolk" quests, what kind of evil fiend would I be if I helped out people?

My most successful try came to a screeching halt when I went to hommlet to rest with Lareth in my party. The people at the inn seemed to know who lareth is and attacked me. I butchered them all with some help from Toruko and his fighter companion. Too bad they had to be taken out after the townsfolk run out as they went after me. BUTCHER OF HOMMLET. Oh well, I never really liked this place anyway. Lets go to Nulb. During my visit to Nulb, I was up to no good as usual. Assasinated a gal at the docks without anyone knowing. I was just about to leave when it hit me that I need to get some items from the blacksmith. Otis attacked me on sight and let me tell you, it wasn't easy to kill him with a 3rd level party. But I needed one of my party members ressurected afterwards. I thought I could try with Terjon, even though it was highly possible he would attack me. And so I entered the Cuthbert church and Calmert went after me. The fuck was too strong, he was a high level cleric and took most of my party members down before I could send him to hell. At this stage, I had two PCs left so I gave up.

Ironman is the only mode I'll ever play in ToEE. I find myself a 100% more tactical, more strategic in character development, choosing multiple classes along leveling to get the most bonuses. This is the REAL thing.

Playing patched without the Co8 patch because it implements a lot of aspects that make the game easier.

 

Successfully solo Ironman as a bard and I'll make you a moderator for a day. And I mean solo - no followers.

On a more serious note, I'll give this mode a bash someday. At the moment, I'm still experimenting with the various classes, combinations and whatnot. Have found that greataxes are very, very good.

 

Heh, no kidding man. This shit is damn hard. And you get punished for mistakes big time. Everytime you raise someone from the dead, a big chunk of their XP is taken away. Since some of my characters died twice, they are way behind others.

I really have to roleplay this game on ironman, think about what I do and the consequences. I love it. But hell, things can get from peachy to knee deep in shit in a split second during battle. Makes winning all the more rewarding I guess.

 

Ironman would be alot greater if the game included all the 3.5 skills, and feats. I really would have liked to have seen mounts, and some more wonderous items. ToEE does a pretty good job, but nothing is as much fun as the real-thing D&D.

 

I already tried. I went as far as the undead under the moathouse.

 

I made it past the moathouse, I paid off the captain and talked with Lareth. After a little fight he quit and left without his chain.

Nulb has a lot to offer in terms of quests that don't involve violence.
However, I need to find a way to unlock the chests with the robes. Bard doesn't get the knock spell and I haven't got a scroll. I Don't have time to play now but I think there are three places where you can (possibly) get one. From Burne, from the Seaman Tavern or from the old witch who sells herbs.

 

You know, you could just try the good old route of actually picking the locks...

That said, if I solo the game, I think I'd go as a monk. I've got a monk right now, level 7, with an AC of 31. Yeah, that's right, he only gets hit with failed criticals (except for the occasional really really strong giant/ogre chieftan/what have you). I say failed criticals, because to get a critical you have to exceed or their AC on the second roll, which you'd need a base attack bonus of 11 to do (apart from rolling a 20, which on the second roll does not translate to automatic critical). Adjust needed roll down as base attack rises, obviously, but my monk isn't done yet. At level 10 he'll get another +1 AC, and eventually I'll get bracers of armour +5 instead of +3. Mmm, 34 AC...

Anyway, enough of my blabbing/bragging. I honestly can't believe you're taking up the challenge Dark Elf - bards are incredibly bad. They don't get good spells, can't fight for crap and generally suck. If you want to continue with the challenge, by all means go ahead, but I'm changing the original one - solo (no followers, one PC) with any character class you want, and I'll make you mod for a day.

 

Lock Pick is on bard class ability. I should have spent so much on bluff, I got a spell which gives you +30

Now with a fighter, it would be easy. You must select toughness at the start though. My bard at around level 6 had 50 hit points. That's not bad for a bard is it?

 

Let's see, max con bonus of +4, hit die of D6, so max could be 6x6 + 6x4 = 66, so it could be better.

Why the hell do you need toughness though? +3 hit points, woohoo, you've hit the big time! Do the quests in Hommlet like DE did and you'll get a few levels. Hell, do an opening with a fair bit of combat (LG and CE spring to mind) and you'll get pretty close to your first level.

 

+3 hitpoints per level it seems. In an Ironman game, it goes a long way. I daid 50 HP for a bard is good, and it IS good. First time I played, I took Barbarian2(levels) 1 thief and the rest fighter. I had over around 40 HP at lv 4. Now my current front man has 40 HP at level 6. There is nothing you can do about it, no loading. That +3 can make the difference.

 

Heh, I doubt I'll make it too far...I still need to beat the game on Normal...


What would you all say is the best character class to use, you think it's a bard? How would a dwarven fighter do, with power attack, cleave and sooner or later, greater cleave? Expert in Dwarven Battle Axe...ahh....the great fighter.

 

When you can't load and get 4 hitpoints instead of 1 the difference is visible.

 

The game would be so much easier if you could PICK the weapon you start out with...like in normal D&D....