Tim Cain joins Obsidian, working on Arcanum 2?

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  1. DarkUnderlord

    DarkUnderlord Administrator Staff Member

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    According to his <a href="https://www.facebook.com/timothycain">Facebook profile</a>, Tim Cain (Former Lead Developer of Troika Games) has joined Obsidian Entertainment. Obsidian are best known for their RPG-Lites with shitty uncontrollable in-game cameras built with other people's technology.

    Will this mean Arcanum 2? (The Arcanum IP is owned by Sierra Entertainment still I think). Will this mean some sort of similar game that's not quite a sequel but is in an unofficial way? Are we just wildly speculating?

    Possibly... Possibly...

    Spotted @ <a href="http://rpgcodex.net/">RPGCodex</a>
     
  2. Jojobobo

    Jojobobo Well-Known Member

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    Sweet! A think I'd enjoy an Arcanum sequel no matter who makes it.
     
  3. Arthgon

    Arthgon Well-Known Member

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    If they really are going to make a sequel of Arcanum, then they really should do something about those cameras first. Let's hope that it is not going to be in 3D. *fingers crossed.
     
  4. Zanza

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    I think making Arcanum an fps/rpg hybrid would work out well.
     
  5. Arthgon

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    I truly hope it is a good idea. That's because I already have seen some awesome series going to the drain when they became 3D. (Ultima XI being the utter worst.) Perhaps it also have to do that I am a bit old-fashioned. Loving a really good plot over state of the art graphics.

    Being grown up with the old classics like Wizardy, Dungeon Hack and the Ultimas, etc I know how it was back then. But now everyone wants to make everything in 3D. (adventure games are not safe either.) Why must every game by in 3D? Yes. NWN I and II were in 3D (sort off.), but it was not bad or irritating like others.

    Lets just hope that they will make good decisions when they create Arcanum 2.
     
  6. Muro

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    The main antagonist should be a follower of Kerghan with the exact same philosophy and plan as his master, who will abandon it if you ask him really politely.
     
  7. Arthgon

    Arthgon Well-Known Member

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    You idea is okay, but would not it better that the sequel has a different plot as Arcanum I?
     
  8. Muro

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    Mmm. Let me say it differently. That sort of plot would be more fitting in an add-on than in a sequel. Because I do not think that everyone is waiting for a Kerghan 2 or something. I would rather prefer a civil war with political intriges, treason, murder and racial discriminations (Humans vs Elves or Orcs) than the same old thing that was already a part of the plot in Arcanum I.

    PS: Important things like toilets and a better and easy way to create new creatures, objects, facades, etc. would make it even better.

    Edit: It would be very interesting to make an add-on with the point of view of Kerghan or the Dark Elves.
     
  10. TheDavisChanger

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    I only played a couple of hours of Fallout 3 and I was not disappointed by the game. Although the interface was different and I could not effectively navigate the world because I am abysmally inexperienced at FPSs, I thought there was a great deal of the Fallout feel put into the game. It seemed like a worthwhile experience, but my girlfriend and I broke up and I couldn't play her son's Xbox anymore.

    Although I prefer the third person isometric experience, I hesitate to say that Bethesda did Fallout 3 wrong. Likewise, I expect anybody (especially Tim Cain) who has enough interest to continue Arcanum would give it equal if not more care. If I have a point, it would be that moving from third- to first-person does not necessarily break a game and am open to see how Arcanum is continued if it is continued at all.
     
  11. Arthgon

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    If there is a possibility that you can switch Third Person to FP and back, then everyone can play the game in their own favorite way.
     
  12. TheDavisChanger

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    I think Fallout 3 had this implementation, but it was closer to over-the-shoulder third-person as opposed to omniscient isometric third-person.
     
  13. Muro

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    Fallout 3 is a fun game with a weak recycled far-fetched incoherent plot and shallow boring characters* with awful voice acting**. Did I enjoy playing the game? Yes. Would I want to see the same happen with Arcanum? Not really.

    * I have to admit, some of the ideas of characters were quite good. For example, I liked the idea behind Moira Brown, but hearing her trying to be funny and failing each and every time filled me with sadness and readiness to put an end to her misery.

    I was also a fan of the idea of doing what they did with
    Harold's body, but his mind... I will never be able to forgive the creators turning a sharp-witted cynic into a full-time retard.
    I also like the idea behind...

    **...John Henry Eden being the exception here (him and Dad, why not). If only his dialogue was as good as his voice.
     
  14. Jojobobo

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    I guess we should bear in mind though that if they did make Arcanum 2 it would have creative input directly from Tim Cain, so unlike Fallout 3 I don't think we'd have to worry much about the story not being good.
     
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    Point taken. Perhaps there is hope for a quality sequel after all.
     
  16. Jojobobo

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    Aren't we missing the point a bit though that he'll probably just be working on Fallout 4? I think that's much more probable than an Arcanum 2 sequel, they probably got him on board to appease hardcore fans of the first two games who found Fallout 3 and Fallout: NV disappointing.
     
  17. TheDavisChanger

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    Good (unfortunate) point, Jojobobo. Unless I'm mistaken, Arcanum does not have quite the following that Fallout does. I'd bet the only way we're going to see an Arcanum sequel is if Cain pushes for it.
     
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    Arcanum is not as popular as Fallout, because the setting is kinda half-assed. On one hand you have tons of genetic Tolkien/D&D bullshit, on the other hand you have some interesting industrial/steampunk stuff (which is often refreshingly not politically correct). The problem, though, is that the interesting stuff is barely fleshed out at all. The game is more about the struggle between elves and dwarves and the coming of the ancient evil than the industrial revolution and funky inventions.
     
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    As far as I'm concerned Fallout 3 was never made.
     
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