The Truth (As I see it)

I'm too suspicious of the wording of the situation to commit myself to an answer!

I'm sure you'll be only too pleased to find out that that's fallacious!

 

Suspicious...of...the...wor-ding?
Whaaat?
It's a simple pick your favorite conundrum! It denotes how sensitive you are to the needs of others! Do you pick the clever guinea pig who sounds like a hobo, or the ravenous hobo who sounds like a guinea pig?
Pick the pig and you are sensitive the needs of the weak, the defenseless. Pick the hobo and you are sensitive to the needs of your fellow man.

 

What if the weak and the defenseless are your fellow man!? Away with your witchcraft and Jewish confusion!

P.S. ytzk deleted another post! Get confident, stupid!

 

That wasn't really the point, I just wanted you to pick one.

 

Facetiousness aside, my logic is fallacious for a fixed co-ordinate of "I" but valid when charted across the extra dimension of identity.

Just like geometry can be dead wrong when you fail to account for all of the dimensions.

It is not "I" who thinks, therefore it is not "I" who exists.

Something is lost in translation here.

 

Suspicious wording! Unless the hobo and/or guinea pig can act instantaneously, they'll both be still alive after two minutes! And the fact that one of them speaks doesn't mean the other doesn't; so you could hear both, if they can both say it! I've got my good eye on you...

And that whole inverse error thing!

 

Descartes said "I think therefore I am." You're being a silly billy now.

 

How about:

"Not I do think therefore, Not I do exist" ?

 

Inverse error, pal!

 

Hey, talk to the supergalactic overmind because the transient identity ain't listening!

 

If I didn't already have a brilliant signature, it'd definitely be this:

 

Oh, I just noticed your hobo/guinea-pig thought experiment back on page 19, sir. So that's what you were talking about.

I had assumed this thread had just devolved into pure dementia to prove a point.

Yes, the guinea pig, definitely the guinea pig.

But seriously, 1/0 = infinity.

 

No arguments, here!

 

I'm with Wayne on this one. He actually makes sense, compared to Gross.

 

Ravenous hobo all the way.

 

I have no clue what you're talking about. If you're trying to make a serious point then please re-phrase it. However, if you're satirising the pretentious way that people mix physics terminology with talk of consciousness and end up saying nothing of value at all then yeah, haha, you nailed it.

As for the rest of this ridiculous discussion of logic, it's obviously more than just a human construct, because we can build a physical machine that operates by logic and then it does useful work. Granted, binary logic is only a subset, but computers are not a figment of scientists' imaginations, so neither is all logic.

 

Let me rephrase for you, if you give serious attention to the possibility that there is an ancient and powerful consciousness within us all, a collective consciousness, if you will, then it will turn its serious attention to you.

Even arguing and being skeptical is a way of focussing on it and it will consume your awareness utterly someday, one way or the other.

I don't expect for a minute that you'll even try the experiment let alone buy into what I'm saying, but try and do me the courtesy of assuming that I may actually be doing a decent job of describing a real phenomenon. Someday you may actually find it useful.

For my part, I would ask again that you please reveal to the house if you are or are not an Englishman!

 

Pick me, pick me!

We are all Englishmen. Just many times removed. On our mother's side.

 

English isn't my native language. And no, I'm not American.

 

What did you say about our mothers?!

Nah, you're right. I know I'm part English on my mother's side, what I don't know is whether or not Smuel is currently an Englishman from England Englanding up Englandland.

Well, Smuel?

Englanding down England street with your English posse?