The Truth (As I see it)

Examples of non-rock fossils include mosquitoes trapped in amber and trace fossils.

Please provide sources about nothing being actively fossilized today. I find it hard to believe, but if there have been reports about it, then I'd like to know more about it.

One possible explanation would be that that they were preserved in a muddy, anoxic location and later redeployed in sand, which then solidified into sandstone. Where's the great mystery in this?

 

Explain.

 

Paleontology also has nothing to do with water eroding the Grand Canyon, which was your original example of how "evolution tells lies".

In my experience, creationists will call practically anyone an "evolutionist", presumably for the same reason that you think the formation of the Grand Canyon has something to do with evolution.

Aren't humans primates?

That's because the process takes thousands of years. Obviously if you go out and look at a dead bird, and then go back the next day and look at it again, you will conclude that it hasn't fossilized much. You have to bury the bird and then come back thousands of years later. Actually, you have to bury loads of them, and then, if you're lucky, one will have been in the right conditions to fossilize.

 

I stopped paying attention to the Evolution vs. Creation 'debate' when I started hearing creationists expect evolution to explain gravity.

 

Actually a fossil can be made in very little time. You just need extremely mineral-rich mud, amber, etc.

And it doesn't take thousands of years to form a fossil. The longer it supposedly takes, the more likely decay will occur.

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But this argument is getting pointless, we aren't going to change who the other side trusts. Creationists trust the writers and translators of the Bible. "Evolutionist" trust in Man's Reasoning Ability, the scientific method, or whatever.

Both sides argue that humans are falliable, but not "their" humans. It is all a matter of the color of the glass through which you are looking. There are some colors that cannot be seen through colored glass. Which colors that cannot be seen are dependent upon what color the glass is.

 

What if you are colour blind?

 

Bong! Wrong again. Scientists readily admit they ARE fallible. I said as much in a previous post. The whole point of the scientific method is that it validates theories by experimentation or evidentiary analysis. And then the theories are checked again by hundreds of other people before they are accepted by the community. The endeavour of science is a massive error-correcting system designed to eliminate the human factor. There is no accepted theory today that could not be re-tested by a modern scientist on the spot if he had the slimmest doubt regarding it.

The Bible on the other hand? It's been written and that's that. Can we go back and ask the author of Genesis whether he meant seven literal days or not? No - we can only argue endlessly over the nuances of translated words. That is no way to uncover universal truth.

 

I find it baffling that whenever I think something in response to one of the many religious and philosophical debates around here, moments later I see it written down by Smuel. He must be a forgotten sock puppet gone sentient or something.

 

Fossilization is separate from tanning of tissues. As far as I can tell, the bones would actually be less solid, due to acids eating away at the mineral structure of said bones.
And I say most things don't fossilize these days due to a lack of adequate circumstances preserving the bodies to be fossilized. Bacteria consumes the flesh, animals consume it, and the bones dry out and fall apart over a period of time. I'm not saying fossilization can't happen these days, just that it doesn't due to an adequate mudslide or similar land-moving event that traps living (soon to be dead, of course) creatures that would die of suffocation.
Sandstone forms under intense pressure, that's why I wonder how the bodies of the Ediacarans weren't destroyed before they could fossilize adequately.

 

Um, fossilisation is probably not seen by us because it's happening under tonnes of sediment.

 

One thinks, and the other doesn't? Awh man, get me on the thinking side! I don't want be no idiot!

 

// Why ask the author when we can ask God?

Scientists don't debate. They research and then publish their findings. Ergo, I wasn't referring to Scientists.

And your argument in its entirety proves my point: the System that you believe in is an "error-correcting system designed to eliminate the human factor" aka Infallible. "Your humans" in this case is not a collection of single entities, but the collective entity itself aka "the System."

And the corresponding argument for scripture is that God exists and communicates to the hearts of those that follow Him, correcting the misinterpretations of man by virtue of the simple fact that true followers of God hear his "voice". To express this concept with scripture "My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:" (John 10:27).

I believe in the Living Word, Jesus, who rose from the dead, is alive in heaven and has the power to communicate heart-to-heart & mind-to-mind with those that believe in him. Now, when you consider my comment back on page 2 that I can communicate mind-to-mind with my soul mate, my belief in Jesus’ abilities is not far-fetched (from my perceptive) owing to the fact that I can do what I claim Jesus can do. But first, I believed.

Does the double negative equal a positive in this case or a negative?

With metaphors, colour blind would be another way of expressing the same concept:

• "For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known." (1 Corinthians 13:12)

...that we only know part of reality.

// My apologies for taking the jokes at face value.

 

You're a fucking idiot.

// My apologies for calling you a fucking idiot.

 

Bit mean Wayne.

 

Bit lame Zanza.

 

*Rerailing to an earlier derailing*

A man was travelling through an Indian village where he met an old priest beside a sacred statue.

"Which god is this?" He asked the old priest.

"It is only a sign-post pointing toward the one true God." The priest replied.

"But what about the people who cannot see past the sign?" The man asked.

"Ah," said the priest. "For those people, God is in no hurry."

 

The goal post is set right here..... no, wait, it's here.....right here.........it's over here now.

 

God told me to tell it like it is! And anyway, I removed any offence or annoyance it could've caused by apologising at the end of the post... like Xyle did!