The Lord Of The Rings ...

Last night (17th December 2003), the final concluding episode of the Lord Of The Rings trilogy was released to the public in London. Ofcourse me being a dedicated fan, went to see it with a few friends.

The Return Of The King has got to be the best ending film I have ever seen, or even ever made. Unlike the poorly done Matrix Revolutions, Return Of The King has left no questions un-answered. The CGI animation was better than anything we have seen so far and the plot is even better. What I loved about it is how they put the fights and battles to one side, and concentrated on the characters emotional struggle. That is what a good film is, makes you "feel" for the characters.

The battle for Gondor and Minas Tirith was spellbounding, however the ending battle at the Black Gates Of Mordor, was over very quikly. Though this later explained ( No Spoilers ) The hobbits, seem to have a much bigger role this time round, though all of Sarumans scenes have been cut out for some reason.

Elijah Wood (Frodo), I've felt has captured Frodo's character perfectly, if he had got it wrong, the whole point would have been ruined. (Mr. Wood, I salute you). I am really upset now that there won't be anymore LOTR... Maybe they might release The Hobbit ? :roll:

I recommend like hell that ALL of HoL go and see it, even if you don't like the LOTR trilogy.

 

Of course it is a qualtiy conclusion and such. It isn't a rapidly pieced together piece of crap made to succeed the success of previous movies. Instead, it is based off of something from the late 1950s. That means it was a lot harder to botch the story. They could have easily botched the dirceting and characters, however, and that, and the fact that they CUT TOM BOMBADIL are the things that should be discussed.
I am still bitter about them cutting tom Bombadil.

 

I was in a games store a while ago when I saw a game the hobbit. It looked pretty shit.

 

Unfortunately, the movie doesn't open here till December 26. Oh well, it's not like I don't know what's going to happen. With regards to the books, I think that The Two Towers was better than Return of the King.

 

Just tell me - with Saruman's scenes cut out, is the acquisition of the Palantir explained well?

Anyway, from talking to fellow LotR fans, the thing that most people are pissed off about in the trilogy is Haldir and the Elves coming to the rescue at Helm's Deep - though in my opinion, even though it goes against one enormous underlying theme of the trilogy, I don't mind. I am annoyed about the Scouring of the Shire being cut out, though.

...Wait...the Grey Havens scene is still in, isn't it? ISN'T IT?

[Edit] - In regards to the Hobbit game, I think we all knew it was going to be a travesty...but I only fully realised how truly, truly TERRIBLE it's going to be when I saw a full-page ad somewhere: ***MISLEADING SPOILER***a picture of a visible Bilbo, sword in hand, confronting Smaug. ***/MISLEADING SPOILER***

Of course, this doesn't actually happen. They've mauled it.

 

Yes, the Grey Havens is in it.

 

Well, I'm happy then .

 

An interesting subject Tom Bombadil. I just had this conversation with my Literature teacher. And found out that Bombadil is a very racy character, and is also a rather offensive one-when compared to other literature. I believe that this, perhaps, could be the reason that Bombadil does not make the cut!?


don't flame me, this is just a recall of a conversation. there is probably another reason for it, but we (my classmate, instructor, and I) thought this a fairly solid theory.

 

No, Tom Bombadil was just an annoying fuck who ran around all day singing while thinking of new songs to sing once he'd finished the current 30-verses-with-10-interludes-and-one-toilet-break epic. Tolkien later regretted including Bombadil in the book, showing once again that editing is a good thing to do.

 

He said he only regretted it since so many fans wrote him ask what it meant. And so, to diffuse things, he said that Bombadil was originally Chritopher Tolkein's (his son's) favorite stuffed toy. When Chris was small, J.R.R. made up stories about Bombadil to tell Chris at bedtime. Eventually, he set them to verse, and published them in The Adventures of Tom Bombadil, stylistically similar to Middle English folktales.

In my personal opinion, I think T.B is what is above, but the fact that he is the only thing in the books from "real life" points to metatextuality. I posit that Bombadil is the author in the text. His function as outsider is like an author. HE is unaffected by the ring. He works as a deus ex machina for the hobbits. And just like an author, he is omnipotent within his domain (the text) but not outside (in life). The fact that giving him the ring would eventually end in failure means partially that Tolkein believed the story was larger than him and partially that it would make the text itself bad, a bad story, thus raping the domain of the otherwise omnipotent author like a Sauron.

 

The whole Tom Bombadildo thing bored me to tears.

Just saw the mooovie last night. It was excellent. Made me kinda sad, end of the road. Hats off to you, Mr. Jackson. It's been a fun ride.

damn i'm drunk.

 

The reason why Tom wasn't in the movieis because he didn't advance the storyline any. They gave Treebeard a few of his lines in the extended edition.

 

The extended versions of most of the movies seem to give away more of the story then the original version, some of those cut out scenes are very important.

Anyway, I'm going to see the final movie some time today...I'll tell you what I think.

 

I don't know. The extended versions are over four hours. I think that would have turned off a lot of non-fans.

 

Wow. I saw Return of the King yesterday and it was awesome. Oh baby. There's some kinda useless crap in there, but it's really good none the less. Go see it, now.

 

I have the extended editions of the first two films ... Some of the extended scene are totally useless ... or have dodgy special effects :lol:

However, some of the scenes cut out are, or would be, quite important to the plot. For example in The Fellowship of the Ring - Gimli falls in love with Galadriel (Elf queen of Loth-Lorien), I don't see why they didn't include this scene in the original movie...

Secondly, also in The Fellowship of the Ring, there is a extended scene of when the fellowship are getting their equipment and supplies ready after the Secret Council in Rivendale (City of the elves) ... I found this scene quite usefull because it explained the story behind the Horn of Gondor...

Also, in The Two Towers, the battle for Helms Deep is extended and there are a few more scenes of the Ents (Treebeard etc...) and at the end there is a scene of how Gandalf and Rohan drive the Orcs and Uruk-Hai back into the enchanted woods (Fangorn Forest)... There is also a scene with Merry and Pipin... how they find a storage room in Isengard full of food and weed ...

Well, it was a pretty smart idea... make all films at once, then release them year after year... making the "fools" go out and buy the VHS or DVD to refresh their memory of what happened... Genius...