That's it. We're done. Get the nukes, kiddos.

As I understood it, the problem with that thing was the House was voting for a bill that could directly leave the Senate out of the loop, or the vice versa. It isn't good when a majority government/ruling party just bends the procedures at will.

That being said, the U.S. "does" need a Healthcare Reform, and the things I've heard about them are all good. And if BNH stands for the British Healthcare system, don't forget Stephen Hawking depends on them to live. They cannot be THAT bad.

 

...Okay. I'm just gonna link what I came here to link and back right off.

For you, Dark Fool.

 

A Twilight thread derailed into a political bitchslap contest. You all have achieved a new low. Though, I will grant Darkfool validity for his aggression towards the vampfag series based on his previously stated point. Middleschool was a fucking transitional nightmare of a mainstream, brandname sludgefest, IIR.

Over and out.

 

Heh. My middle school was divided into who wore Abercrombie & Fitch jeans and who wore JNCO jeans. Violent water balloon fights ensued.

 

Your link wins for starting with the line "You cannot buy a Lexus for $20,000". It loses some of its charm for not finishing with "So don't get Universal Health Care, cause I really want a Lexus".

Seriously, it's not that bad. I'd rather everybody got to have health care then a few really rich people get to have mega health care.

 

I think we're missing the point on the healthcare debate. Regardless of what it is or is not, the American people don't like the plan that has been proposed. Reconciliation is basically a way of unilaterally shoving it down our throats, ignoring the rights of the minority in favor of the agenda of the majority. If the Dems weren't so hell-bent on having everything their way, they'd find it a lot easier to reach a bipartisan solution to healthcare.

 

Very, very true. But then again, if it were simple and comprehensible, it would not be politics, hmm?

 

Do you think that contributes to having the 3rd highest GDP per capita (24th nominally)? Just curious if there is a relation.

 

I think the biggest problem is that people need to stop watching Fox News and read up on what reconciliation is used for.

Honestly, if I didn't already know how the politics of this forum swung, I would have just assumed that Japes directly quoting Glenn Beck was sarcasm.

Though, the more I reread Japes's post, the more likely that possibility becomes.

 

I'm growing to oppose it, but mainly for two reasons 1)I don't want to pay for other people's medical issues. 2) what Xz said: It's long and tedious, and nobody really knows what's in it.

 

Me? Sarcastic? Never.

But really, how is it fair to me, the minority, if those who represent me in congress are completely shut out of the legislative process?

 

Why is it fair to the majority for the minority to try to use a process that is, to everybody's confession, just stalling and using strawman tactics until everybody gets bored and gives up because everything is getting to be too long and drawn out?

 

Still too long.

If it was fair, it wouldn't be politics...or America.

 

Truth is it's not fair. But neither is it fair for a mob to vote away my right to my own money and the fruits of my labor.

Say what you will about her, but regardless of if you agree or disagree with her, Ayn Rand is right in this case.

 

Doesn't the public insurance option still require monthly payments, only to the government? And if you have private insurance, you can just opt out of the public option?

That's how Turkish Social Security System works.