Sweden is now Oceania

Well, it worked for USA, right?

 

My question is, who's a foreign threat to Sweden? Have y'all even been in a war?

 

Yep.

This new law's just fucking embarrasing. That's what it is.

 

@Xz
Stricly speaking, i'm pretty sure it wasn't a war with you, but with Denmark. The latest with you was a Revolt(civil war thingie, attempt to get a own goverment), and I don't think there were any battles, so it doesn't really count.

Unless my history is really bad.

 

Good for you, now you have a NSA too. I wonder how quick you can catch up to us in number of years of data that no one has listened to yet? Well, even if you do, there is no way you can catch up to us in number of incarcerations. We're #1!

It's a good thing the US Constitution 2nd Amendment is no longer restricted from applying to assault weapons. Now we are really free AND really safe!

 

I hope you're not being sarcastic. You can look up the statistics: more guns, less crime. Not the other way around. The fear of catching a hollow point in the face is enough to keep most people in line. If you outlaw guns, only the outlaws will have guns.

 

I was being sarcastic, but I wasn't being that serious. I have heard quite a bit about this issue, but I'll admit I don't know as much about it as others. I tried to find some statistics, but it's hard to find recent statistical data rather than just rhetoric on the internet. Actually, I probably just suck at Google.

Here's some statistics I did find, which were actually through a pro-gun site:

http://www.guncite.com/cnngunde.html

I know the comparison between the US and Japan is pretty frequently cited, although I'll admit that it isn't very definitive, considering Japan's long history of draconian punishments for peasants found with weapons.

Here's some more statistics, which are more complete, although a bit dated (1991):
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-gunownership.htm

Yes, I know that there are many factors that influence both these statistics and the behavior they reflect. I can't correct for all of that, not without caring about this issue. However, it's pretty clear that there is at least a rough correlation. Also, I think that all the arguments about how gun accessibility helps stop crime also have contrary arguments about how more gun availability promotes crime.

 

Considering no one in Sweden gives a fuck about muslim criminals in Malmö, I doubt this law is going to have any effect on them, or other terrorists, either.

 

I don't think looking at the percentage of murders committed involving firearms proves anything. It's the 21st century. Naturally, if you're going to murder someone a gun is a pretty logical choice. A better statistic to look at would be crime rates in areas where gun ownership is high.

 

Another way to look at it is this; while gun murders have gone up, the melee weapon murders have gone down. Since that's the case, that just means that people are switching over to guns, not necessarily that guns are the reason people are being killed.

 

Right, I can't find applicable statistics. I was looking at the stats that compare gun owner ship and murder rates between countries, but looking just at America's stats over time should at least point to something. Of course, people probably won't be affected by gun control laws when they already have guns... a comparison of regions' murder rates in general and gun laws would probably be the only stat that means anything. And, of course, it's still open to interpretation...

 

I'd assume that they don't need to, in most cases. They've got some kind of Scandinavian SWAT for special occasions, right?

 

I like guns. They're nice.