Sound in Vinyl

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  1. DivinePonies

    DivinePonies Member

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    Seriously, how can vinyl be better if it's equalized? It's like saying that compressor improves the sound of already finished song.
    CD is the closest you'll get to studio recording and vinyl is alive only because of the nostalgia and people who believe it's better when it's actually not.

    That aside, there's nothing wrong when someone prefers the sound of vinyl records. It's like listening to some techno/house/electronic/something with amplified bass.

    I'd rather listen to music how the author intended it to be listened. Unspoiled (relatively).
     
  2. Grossenschwamm

    Grossenschwamm Well-Known Member

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    Well, if your average CD records and plays back frequencies beween 20-20,000 hertz, and sound quality will peter out around 14k, what's the point of the extra frequencies if it's just going to sound sharp as hell, especially if the sampling rate is literally fractions lower than that of an analog recording?

    Do you know how many hours of CD quality sound can be recorded on a DVD? Around 7 hours. That same DVD can alternatively record 80 minutes of DVD quality sound that plays back on a level comparable to a vinyl. Considering every sound played through a speaker is equalized in some way, complaining a vinyl gets equalized through playback is a moot point.

    On top of that, I didn't give two shits about vinyl until I heard it myself.
     
  3. DivinePonies

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    Yeah, DVD is better of course, but you won't see music sold on DVDs.

    Also, vinyl then gets equalized twice. First time is when they equalize it before putting it on a record and second time is through speakers. Well, I'm not saying anyone should listen to CD quality music, but that on CD is more true to the studio original. That's all.

    I've listened to vinyl records and they do have a specific sound that's quite nice, but in the long run, it's not something I could listen every day. I could imagine classical music or some older music being listened on vinyl, but majority of new music is not really best listened on vinyl. Especially bass driven music that could toss the needle around (which is one of the reasons they had to equalize the songs for vinyl records).
    In the end it all comes down to one's preferences.
     
  4. Grossenschwamm

    Grossenschwamm Well-Known Member

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    A CD recording is equalized before it's written, too, on top of being a lower resolution sound in the finished product.

    And have you heard of a band called The Allman Brothers? No problems listening to that on a vinyl, and there's two bassists playing.

    Now, I certainly can't use a turntable while driving, and I obviously can't play DVD audio with my car's CD reader. CD sound is better than my radio, for sure. I've listened to Queen on a record and a cd, same album - the record sounds better. Same thing happened with Radiohead.

    I will nonetheless admit my bias, as it would seem some of you guys prefer CD quality sound in spite of my tastes.
     
  5. Smuel

    Smuel Well-Known Member

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    No recording technique is completely lossless. Therefore, using your definition, neither vinyl nor digital are "superior".

    I suggest you change your Davis and try again.
     
  6. ytzk

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    There is some aesthetic value in knowing - if not hearing - that the sound waves vibrated a needle which carved a physical representation into the disc and then the diamond tip follows those same carvings to make sound waves again. It's the swansong of the stone-age, before lasers and such.

    It's like the airplanes of a century ago. Yes, more dangerous, yes, slower and clumsier, but, as you fly, you can feel the mechanics and understand them intuitively. There's something comforting about machinery which can be understood, built and maintained without extra computing power.

    Until it fucks up, of course.
     
  7. Grossenschwamm

    Grossenschwamm Well-Known Member

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    Well, the key difference between vinyl and the planes of 1912 is that I'm less likely to break my neck if the needle jumps on my turntable.
     
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