just to try... i tried the ancient maze to get the sword, no explosive weapon works, you can not teleport in (spatial relocation.. or whatever) , no hitpoints, you can't knockback the walls, or knock a creature through the walls. Same holds true for the pit in derholm. The guy you talk to asking to go in lowers his opinion of you by 5 each time you ask to go in. at suspisious he tells you he doesn't have time, with my negotiator, my only option was, that was rude, and he apologiuses and hes reaction goes back up to neutral. So i tried it again with my theif (no persuasion, lower cha/beauty) same thing... it seems that their is a quest missing, cause it seems possible to get him to throw you in .. and the passage exists, but you have to activate the quest in order to have a reason to go into the pits. Another thing i tried.. almost worked hehe. I got him to suspicious, then i charmed him, and lowered him to suspricious again, then dropped charm, his reaction to me was 3... but he didn't attack, and when i talked to him only option was to raise faction back to 50 by making him say sorry. You also can't spatial relocate into the pit, and attacking him does nothing, maybe if you become the theif or murderer of derholm (reputation) he will throw you in... lets try to solve these guys... no fiction, only what you've tried and what does or does not work Peace jamie
There is a quest where you need to request Tollo at the Dernholm pits. Provided the thieves underground. Got it from TA's walkthrough. :smile:
bump just bumping this to the top, thanks for the help on the pits thing, never noticed the tollo quest any other ideas on the maze? im sure its solvable maybe you need someone special in the party.. heh i don't know, throw up your ideas jamie