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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by backstabber, Sep 16, 2002.

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  1. Rat Keeng

    Rat Keeng New Member

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    I never read any Terry Pratchett either, but i played Discworld, with Rincewind(?) being voiced by Eric Idle. That was fun.


    There's something i don't get:
    Are you considered racist if you say something like that?
     
  2. Dragoon

    Dragoon New Member

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    It’s true that some of Pratchet’s later books are weak but it’s not a rule fortunately, I honestly dislike “Equal Rites� but then I just love “Guards! Guards!� whereas “Man at Arms� is weaker. Of course all the ones which include Rincewind are great (at least I didn’t encounter one I wouldn’t like).

    I really must get Discworld 2 one day.
     
  3. Settler

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    Eric Idle? Why didn't anyone tell me?

    BTW, I actually have seen a 'Discworld: Noir' game (not played), but, apart from my friend's ramblings, some TV version of the three witches novel - can't remember what it's actally called, put me off TP forever...

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    OK, I'm guessing you're all familiar with the whole 'queue-jumper' thing. True refugees, i.e, those fleeing war, CAN'T be illegal - they have the right to seek asylum by any means. Economic refugees, those just wanting a better life, but not in any danger whatsoever, should NOT be able to 'queue-jump'. But some of the moral crusaders in my class seem to think that everyone should be allowed in, refugee or not.

    And then there's also people who agree with me but don't understand me...
     
  4. backstabber

    backstabber New Member

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    due to overwhelming responses, i hereby retract some of my statements , these being:
    3 and 4
    however, due to my consciense i hereby add another statement

    immoral - set up "comfort houses"

    if u do not know what this house means:
    the japs capture girls and women and force them to work in these establishments
    by "work" it means: getting raped by the jap soldiers and killed if they dont cooperate
    if u think that "in every war there is raping", then , this houses are run by the japanese gvt.
    if u are so cold hearted: imagine ur daughter getting raped, or if u are a lady, YOU getting raped.

    lastly, for more than 50 years, the jap government did not pay a cent to the victims , nor have they apologized
     
  5. backstabber

    backstabber New Member

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    since i have already remove ALL racist statements in my posts, i plead that others also do the same.
    esp. carlstar
     
  6. carlstar

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    so there.

    Didn't you create this thread backstabber?

    Anyway theres a worse thing than racism and thats being forced to with-draw what you said. Freedom allows us all to say what ever the hell you want.

    What i said wasn't racist anyway; it was just stupid to prove a point that i think you are stupid for saying what you said and meaning it. I also dont cave so easily to misguided pressure.
     
  7. Sheriff Fatman

    Sheriff Fatman Active Member

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    Backstabber, you can withdraw what you said, but it is pretty obvious that you dislike the Japanese, and that is racist. I don't know about others, but being quietly racist doesn't seem much less bad than being vociferously racist to me.
     
  8. Settler

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    I, for one, think it's perfectly natural to dislike a race for no real reason, or to dislike them for some small, insignificant thing. Sure, it's not right, but you can't force the We-Are-One on everybody - that's civil liberty.
     
  9. backstabber

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    i was only telling the truth.
    NOBODY CAN SAY THAT WHAT I WROTE WERE NOT FACTS
    THEY ARE ALL FACTS AND BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL FACTS I AM NO LONGER BEING RACIST IN ANY WAY!!!
     
  10. carlstar

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    right if you like then

    Take out japanesse and you have most countries in the world except for the stupid and pointless comment that they are short.
    "Oh no! It's a cat! They are short therefore want to kill me and rape my dead body then test germs on me!"

    bad-ass - they STINK. Gold. Super argument. I cant believe i thought what you said was stupid. What came over me. I apologies for thinking that but of course im short and to busy testing germs on captured Donkeys1.



    1 Sorry Sheriff
     
  11. Sheriff Fatman

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    Just stating facts makes it sounnd really innocuous, Backstabber, which it wasn't. You chose to only talk about the Japanese and only talk about negative things. You singled them out to have a go at, and that's racist. No point in pretending otherwise.

    Settler, you are saying it is alright to force racist views on people but not okay to oppose racist views. Civil liberties do not allow people to just do or say just want we want. The law restricts it to protect people. In the UK, at least, that includes outlawing racism and incitement to racism.

    I'm not sure how the law applies to forums such as this, if at all, but I sincerely doubt there is any civil liberties legal protection for people being racist here.
     
  12. Windmills

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    What one can and cannot say as it applies to civil liberties - is a matter of what governments are allowed to legislate in terms of what can't be said in various forms of communication within their country.

    However, when it comes to privately owned forums, like ths one, the laws are pretty ubiquitous in most democratic nations, in giving the owner of said forum the right to impose whatever restrictions (or lack thereof) as he sees fit, on the speech therein. There are obvious exceptions to this rule, in the case of something obviously wrong like child porn, or something of that nature.

    This case is generally true within each country, however, with the oncoming of a global-spanning internet, where "private" forums are getting worldwide perusal, the laws become just a little more ambiguous, and noone really knows for sure what does and does not apply. (For example, in China - People are not allowed to use the web browser "Google," precisely because the internet is chock full of commentary legal in other nations, but illegal in China.)

    Sorry for the legalese, father was a lawyer. Blame it on the genes. ;-)
     
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