Poisoner

You are WAY off the mark on this one. I always play neutral characters and that's the ONLY way I've managed to beat the game. I tend to concentrate on developing my characters skills and abilities, build up both magic and tech. And I think that the only one of my characters to ever approach a Strength of 20 would by my ogres. I concentrate a lot more on beauty, charisma, persuasion, dodge and throwing than on sheer bull strength. I develop skillful characters with finesse and grace who can walk the tightrope between the two extremes and do it well and they consistently beat the game.

 

I'm not saying it's harder to finish with pure Tech or pure Magic character, Richard. What I'm saying is that Solaris and Settler are all wrong about it being hard to finish the game with a Neutral character. :/

I just happen to prefer the balanced approach to life, so I tend to go that way in the game, I guess. There's nothing wrong with the others, I just don't care for them because I like to use certain things from both sides of the Magick/Tech spectrum of the defense/offense arsenal of goodies, skills and tricks. Maybe favoring throwers has something to do with it, too, since I like to be able to make different things when I need them to throw. But I also like to be able to heal myself without taking up the space I need for my throwing stuff for healing potions, etc. So I make tradeoffs, use the AllFather Blessing, and balance Magick/Tech so that I can use what I need to use for the specific character in the specific place and time.

 

according to the main site walkthroughs

Arcanum Gods Quest
Arcanum Gods Quest


Based on reading the book ?The Pagan Gods Of Arcanum ? and viewing the diagram in Aldous T. Buxington?s office it can determined that giving offers to the gods in a particular order will result in a special bonus. Note the book talks about three fives and then the one. Also talks about the road starting with wisdom (Ter?el) and another road with heart (Torg).

The order in which you make offerings and the benefits received have been listed below.

Once you have completed this, you cannot make any more offerings to the gods.


GOD LOCATION SYMBOL OFFERING
First Circle
Ter?el Falcons Ache Tree Litani
Makaal Bedokkan Village Snakes head Heartstone
Alberich Wheel Clan Dwarven head Lava Rock
Geshtianna Stillwater Three headed woman Passion Root
Halycon Vooridean Sun Olive tree branch

Second Circle
Torg Torgs altar ogres head ruby
Bolo Bolos altar hand ring
Kerlin kerlins altar coin mnura coin
Shakar Kree head of ram bone dagger/kite sword
Moorindal Ancient temple moon Black diamond

Third Circle
Alberich
Makaal
Kerlin
Bolo
Kai?tan - Gorgoth Pass - The World - Geode
Wheel Clan

Final
Velorien - Vendigroth Ruins - Your Character

GOD OFEERING FOUND BONUS
First Circle
Ter?el Ashbury +1bow
Makaal Bedokken village +1dex
Alberich BMC/Wheel clan +1 str
Geshtianna - Glimmering forest area +1beauty
Halycon - Wheel clan +2 Wis +1 Spot Trap+1 Heal +1 Per (lose other bonuses in circle)

Second Circle
Torg All over +1con
Bolo All over +1picklock +1pick pocket
Kerlin All Over +1haggle
Shakar Orc bandits, kites, random monsters +1dodge
Moorindal all over +1.75backstab +1prowling

Third Circle
Alberich +1str
Makaal +1dex
Kerlin +1haggle
Bolo +1picklock/pocket
Kai?tan +2 Beauty/+2 Charisma/+1 Bow (lose other bonuses in circle)

Final Velorien +100 Hp/Fat +2 Melee +3 Dodge +4 Dex +3 Pickpocket +2 Firearms (lose previous circle bonuses)

always works for me.

 

Sorry I didn't reply, Richard. I was out of the loop and didn't spot your question until now, but the list above is indeed correct in terms of the order in which you do the quests. The bonuses for Velorien's Blessing are a bit different than what are listed and are actually:
resistmagic +30, dx +4, resistdamage +30, maxhps +100, maxfatigue +100, melee +12/4, pickpocket +12/4, persuasion +12/4, firearms +12/4, dodge +12/4

And yes, I do know that these are correct because I took them from the effects.mes file and the only alteration that I have made to them is to add the "/4" here to indicate those places where it takes 4 points to make a complete point.

As for the other blessings, I didn't check them, but if you want to check them yourself, it's easy enough to do by just looking them up in your effects.mes file from Arcanum3.dat in the Rules folder. That is, if you don't have it extracted and in your Arcanum\data\Rules folder already.

The key to solving the Gods quest was Mazzerin's Diagram. I did a screen print of it and printed the thing, then tried it in different orders until i found the right one. After I had done it once, I looked up the actual blessings in the effects.mes file to be sure what I was getting and whether it was really worth doing again. Now I tend to time my characters' development of certain skills around the cycles to maximize my benefits from it. Unfortunately, even when it is a blessing from a god in Arcanum, the game won't let you exceed the maximum stat for your race. :???:

 

I am still puzzled over the Firearms bonus from this blessing. It is totally unfair to mages, as it reduces their MA- while by that time you are usually level 50, with all points invested, and can't change much.

 

Firearms is a technological skill, just like lock picking. The firearms bonus you get from Velorien's blessing reduces your MA by 15% I think.

 

I'll have to check this out. As soon as I complete my gunsingler team game, I'm planning to try an evil mage on an evil path. The only problem so far is how to get Mastery in magic, because the evil path doesn't lead to Tulla.

 

There is no way to get the Mastery in the evil path,
to enter Tulla you need to kill the guard but then the whole city turns hostile and the masters of magick are gone.

 

If you kill the guard, I believe the gate will not teleport you into the city walls.
The question is: if I teleport directly to Tulla, will I appear outside or inside?
Unfortunately, I forgot the answer.

 

If you don't kill the guard the teleport gate will work but the whole city is hostile and if you don't kill him the gate teleport will not work.
And if ya teleport directly you will appear outside

 

What about using Dominate Will on the guard?
You can enter Tulla by plotting a Worldmap course that has you traveling through it and then stopping your travel when your dot is over Tulla. With a few tries, this should pop you somewhere inside the city.

 

Dominate won't help.
Yep you will appear inside but I'm not sure if the masters will be there
because when you fight your way inside they are gone

 

You're not fighting your way inside if you do the map walking trick. I've personally not done this trick, can someone confirm it?