Poisoner

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  1. Vorak

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    Vorak, Nov 24, 2003
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    Having used a variety of characters in the game I have been formulating my next one, a poisoner.

    #Master at air magic (poisonous vapours)
    #Doctorate in Chemistry (strong poison)
    #Master at prowl

    Any other suggestions?
     
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    You get bad exp. IIRC killing someone with poison gains you no exp. I tried that once... but if you do try, I'd suggest backstab too. Also, Invisibility would be very useful.
     
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    Prowl+ Envenomed sword+ backstab= poisoner assassin (sneak up on them, hit them with the sword, hide or run away, wait for them to die)
    Prowl+Envenomed bow= archer poisoner (no need for running, you can shoot from Prowl mood)
    Or you can go for a gun chemist: Paralysis+poison to finish off creatures when you can sneak on them unnoticed, Tranquilizer Gun+poison when you have to face them.
     
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  4. Vorak

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    Vorak, Nov 25, 2003
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    OK, so Air & Phantasm, combined with Chemistry & Gunsmithy, plus Prowl and Backstab. Would this create a balanced, magic or tech character?
     
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    A good poisoner always has the antidote.
     
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    Vorak, Nov 25, 2003
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    Yes, good point, add Herbology (poison cure) and Necromantic White (Halt Poison) to all of the above

    With Phantasm, Air, Necromantic White, combined with Herbology, Chemistry plus Prowl and Backstab, am I going to be able to do this before level 50 or will I need the level 127 mod?
     
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    I don't know about others, but I like the level 127 mod and think it's always worth having.
     
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    The question is-what is the point? Neutral character= near zero MA= weak Poison Vapours. I'm not too fond of neutral characters, to tell you the truth. I'd go either for a mage poisoner (Poison Vapours+Sword of Sickness+ Prowl or Phantasm), or a techie poisoner.
     
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    Got to go with Solaris on that point - the only neutral character you'd ever truly succeed with would be a brute with 20-something Strength. If you want to specialize, pick a side and stick to it.

    It's by no means impossible (or even difficult) to beat the game with a hybrid tech/magic, but he/she won't excel at anything in particular - but it may just be me getting all obsessive-compulsive again *pops pills*.
     
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    I too agree, pick a side. Either tech or mage (I'd go with mage, but that's just me)


    BTW was I right about the exp from poison kills?? I remember getting no exp for killing someone with poison.
     
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  11. Dark Elf

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    Alright, mage poisoner with air, nec white, phantasm and nature (control beast on venom hound)

    Thoughts?
     
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    Sounds alright. Plus Sword of Sickness. Oh and and of course the Ring of Poison Resistance+Serpent's amulet from Isle of Despair- so you wouldn't get hurt too much from your own Poison Vapours.
     
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  14. Vorak

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    Yes, but now what background? and race I guess if you like that sort of thing...
     
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    Silvara, Nov 26, 2003
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    Raised by Snake Handlers? (or something like that)
    As for race, if you're going to go mage better not pick dwarves...
     
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    I have played a dwarf mage before, wasn't bad, but I wouldn't do it again.
    Probably a half-orc, by far my favourite race.
     
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    well, you could make your own background...
     
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    Thanks for the advice xzbyte, but I just started off with raised by snakehandlers
     
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    [tangent]

    Intelligent half-orcs are incredibly fun to play - you'll get insulted on a regular basis, and then have brilliant, witty comebacks...

    [/tangent]
     
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    If you're going to be a poisoner mage, half-orc really is the best alternative available for you. You get a bonus to Constitution which always is nice for those who dabble in wizardry, and it also adds to your already formidable poison resistance (you get +20 after all). You don't want to die from your own Poison Vapours...
     
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