No 2 Leader of Terror Group say America is loseing war!

Charles... You're such a Massachusetts liberal...

 

I than not a liberal or it opposite.

 

You were the one born yesterday.

Heck, youare even wett behing than ears.

 

The UN is serously thinking of canceling election in Iraq due for Jan 2005.
Also the Sec General of the UN called the America and British Invasion of Iraq than illegal war without UN approval and the touble America is haveing occup Iraq show the folly of not haveing UN approval.

Iran already have nuclear weapon since 1987 useing Pu-239 not U-235.

 

The link I posted was from the Italian Muslim association. They are Sunnis. Saudi Arabia is not a Sunni state, its a Wahhabi/Salafi state, and of course the Sunnis are a minority there. They are, however, an overwhelming majority everywhere in the Muslim world except for three states- Saudi Arabia, Lebanon and Iran. Egypt is a Sunni state, so is Jordan, so are the Gulf states, so is Morocco and North African Arab states. Most of the African black muslims are also Sunni, to my knowlege.

No, the last Muslim sect excommunicated from Islam was actually Louis Farrakhan's "Nation of Islam".

You are talking about rabbi Meir Kahane. He was, of course, quite a nutjob, but he never preached that the Jews take over America :roll:

 

And then if everybody was programmed to do everything they did and no one had free will, then there would be ever LESS wars!

 

I said the Wahh only make up 2% of Saudi population, the Wahh might make up than larger part of the large royal family is true. But the general population is still regulator Sunni. It like stay all regulator germany troop where NAZIE like the SS..

The Nation of Islam was never than Islanist sect. He borrow element from many different religion to created his own. It inpossible to kick out than sect that never was than sect of Islam in the first place. It was later on that his son want to be apart of Islam that Scholar of Islam engauge in talk with him. They where allow to go on Hajre to Mecca as it was than very racist religion in that it believe that black man was better than white man.

 

But they are now, through the magic of mind control, being broadcast through our televisions.

TIN FOIL HATS! REPEAT, TIN FOIL HATS!!!

Can I point back to when Charles said that the coalition is falling apart based upon the fact that Poland is withdrawing support. Now, regardless of my position on the war, I will say this: Based upon the fact that the Polish Airforce strips the wings from it's planes to make their propellers, we might be better off going it alone in that instance.

 

I just bought an "Operation Iraqi Freedom" shirt for 3 dollars. Its got an eagle (who is obviously ready for battle on it) in front of a shield/american flag thing. It looks like a shirt you'd get at an air show or something. I'm going to us some dye to make it say "Operation: Melodramatic excuses to kill something to make yourself feel better about devalued real estate."

 

Wahhabis are 2% of Saudi population??? Give us a friggin break. 90% of their population are Wahhabis, only the north-east is Shia dominated.

Again, you don't have a clue. Nation of Islam was not excommunicated because of racism or because it borrowed from other religions. They were excommunicated because they regarded their founder as a prophet, and in Islam it is a fundamental belief that there can be no prophets after Mohammad.

 

But Sleek, is it really so bad to make melodramatic excuses about killing people to feel better about a problem as diabolical and sinister as devalued real estate?

 

The Nation of Islam was founded by a black man from North Carolina named Noble Drew Ali. He wasnot than Moslum but he began to preach a
message that mixed Islamic symbols with self-help slogans. He make up his own small book, which he called The Holy Qur'an of the Moorish Science Temple of America, and told people he was a prophet of God sent
to redeem blacks and return them to the religion of his forefather, the Moors.His message had little to do with authentic Islam, and his Qur'an was not actually a real Qur'an; but he gained many converts and set up Moorish Science Temple in several cities. Upton his death in the 1930's, his followers divided and went in different directions. This was not the end of the nascent quasi-Islamic movement among African americans, thought. In 1930 a mysterious merchant name Wallace D. Fard make an appearance in Detroit and began preaching a message directed toward what he called "the lost-found tribe of Shabazz."(There is no just word in the Arabic language.).He mixed a few elements of Islam with mysticism and black separatist philosophy and opened a temple for use by his growing following(Some follower of Moorish Science became member Noble Drew Ali death). Fard's most ardent convert was Elijah Poole, who later took the name Elijah Muhammad. He carried the movement further after Fard's mysterious disappearance in 1934 and developed than ideology that mixed Islam and Christianity together. He moved to Chicago
in 1932 and was named chief minister of the now national Nation of Islam. Under his leadership, the organization proselytized aggressively and was able to open temples and businesses in several cities throughout the country. Were the teaching of this group Islamic? Actually, far from it. Beyond symbolism, Elijah Muhammad tauht a number of doctrines that are incompatible with Islam.

These include:

Wallace D. Fard was a divine, Christ-like savior(claim to be Allah).

Elijah Muhammad is a messenger from Allah(Fard).

All white are evil.

Intermarriage between the races is forbidden.

An evil scientist named Yacub created the Caucasian race in a spiteful fit of rage.

The bible is as valid as the Qur'an.

The practices of Islam do not need to be learned in their orthodox form.

It was only in 1975 that Elijah Muhammad's son Wallace questioned the validity of his father's teaching which lead him to change the racially charged doctrines of hatred where removed, follower were instructed in authentic Islamic beliefs and practices, and temples were converted into traditional mosques where Islamic-style prayer began to be held regularly.
Even the name of the national organization was changed to " The World Community of Al-Islam in the West.

Than break away faction under Louis Farrakhan took the name Nation of Islam.

Al-Islam was finealy recognite as than real Islamist sect.

 

Elijah Muhammad's son Akbar teaches Africana Studies at Binghamton University, where I attend. My good friend Jeremiah, who is a Jewish Christian, was failed from his class because of those two reasons. What do they expect, hiring the son of a fucking terrorist?

 

how can you bea jewish christian? don't they cancel each other out?

 

Maybe he means Jewish by nationality/ethnicity, but Christian by faith.

 

There is a number of odd groups who call themselves "Messianic Jews" or "Jews for Jesus". They are basically Jewish converts to Christianity who are trying to combine the belief in Jesus with the preservation of the ritual side of Judaism.

 

They're Christians, only without the skin on the end of their knobs

 

I hope you're making a failed attempt at humor, since everyone knows that circumcision is practiced amongst most faiths in first-world countries.

 

Exactly. You don't have to be Jewish to turn your shotgun into a sawn-off