New moderator(s)?

Hey guys,

Sparked by Jinxed and DMonik's suggestions, I've been thinking a bit about adding more moderators to these forums. I seem to be the only admin still around, still checking the forums, and I'm finding it hard to get really involved in the threads (I don't read all of them, either). It's just that I have too much other stuff to do (including taking care of the rest of the site), so I'm not giving these boards the attention they deserve.
So far, Jinxed is the only candidate I'm seriously considering (sorry DMonik, but Jinxed has been here a while longer and is a "safer" choice IMO).
What do you guys think about this? Also, is there anyone else who thinks he/she might be able to handle the job and actually wants to do it? Let me just give a list of good points & bad points:
The good:
You get to be a moderator, whee!
The bad:
We'll expect you to actually spend time reading threads, breaking up flaming, taking care of problems. That can be a real bitch. Seriously. These forums get a fair amount of traffic, and has a relatively large newbie pass-through.
Sometimes you'll be forced to take action, and some people will hate you for it.
Still interested?
Here's the requirements:
1. You must be a T-A forum regular who reads most, if not all, threads.
2. You have to be able to handle problems in a mature enough manner. (preferably better than I usually handle them, hehe)
3. You have to realize that this isn't about having a "moderator" picture next to your name, this is about actual moderation. If you're just in it for the status, forget it. This needs to be something you want to do because you like these forums and want to help make them better, not because you want power or status or whatever. If you do a good job, we will list you on the Terra Arcanum staff page, but that's just about all the reward you're going to get; this is a non-profit site and we don't have any money to give out. Sorry.

 

I waited along time for someone to post here first but oh well.
I said what needed to be said, and I'm glad you're considering me as a mod. There was a moment there I though you would flame me :sad:.
for a comic relief how about Loo? or even Al? do you know that Al is an admin at TD?
But I haven't seen him there for some time.
I sincerly want to moderate this forum, that means I am ready to face the good stuff and the shitty part of moderation.
about making money, I think being part of one of the best Arcanum Related sites is reward enough. Whats even better is knowing you're actually doing work. and be recognised for it.

 

I already put my two cents in in another thread, something about "wow this post isn't about post count ranks".

 

Sounds good to me. I already wrote in another thread what I though of Jinxed as a possible mod. To sum it up:

"Anyway, what do I think? Personally, I think you'd make decent mod. You are around alot, and you read all the threads. You don't put up with Ioo's shit, and I get the feeling if you were a mod, you'd do something about him bashing the newbies. I think that's a good thing. I get the feeling like you'd let the lighthearted stuff slide, like when threads go off-topic, but wouldn't let the hardcore non-sensical spam go. If I was an admin, I'd give you a trial period, and if at the end you still wanted to do it, I'd probably give you the job."

So my vote (for whatever it's worth) is give him a shot. Give him a fixed period of time try it out along with a "no hard feelings" if he decides he doesn't like it.

I think there's a few people who could do the job. None of them have been around as long as Jinxed has, and who knows how long they'll stay? Besides, none of them have expressed any interest in moderating anyway.

I know I could "handle the job" because I've done it before on other boards. Moderating sucks ass, though, and I hated it. So I fall short on the "...and actually wants to do it?" part. :razz:

 

Go on, let Jinxed have a go. What's the worst that can happen?

Milo's trial sounds like a good idea (in both senses!)

Why do I find myself agreeing with Milo so often. It's not that I object to agreeing with one person a lot, but when that person seems to be the world's scariest pervert, you've got to start asking some questions.

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Sheriff Fatman on 2001-11-30 15:50 ]</font>

 

don't you know that I'm Jinxed? :smile:
boy, already I'm begining to feel like an evil dictator, sice only Kane posted here out of his own free will...

 

Jinxed,

I'm going to make you a moderator for the next two weeks. I reserve the right to yank away your moderator status and put you back to normal during that period. Sorry, but that's just the way it is. I have experience with this kind of thing, giving someone power and then taking it away tends to cause people to become upset or angry. That's why I'm telling you this in advance.

I suggest you read up a bit on the rules I have defined for the forum (a really short document, the "please read the forum rules" link) and think a bit about the limits you'd prefer to set... and be sure to ask me if you need to know anything. I'll also give you access to the admin forum so we can discuss all kinds of moderator-y stuff.

 

ok. I'm done looking around checking out my axe. Fine I agree. Next thing is we need to talk about the moderator-y stuff as you said. like moving/locking threads and all. Still I need to access the staff forum to have a talk(damn you Milo my paranoia is that I keep thinking that everyone thinks I only want access there!)

 

Wow, maybe I should start checking out this section, and not just the General Discussion...

 

well I am disappointed Calis :evil:, in the short while I have been here, I have contributed all that I could have. And as you said, I did also suggest it but I dont care... I guess :cry:

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<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Dmonik on 2001-12-02 14:14 ]</font>

 

And also, I do have board moderating experience :grin:
(http://www.tdwmb.2ya.com <if a password thing comes up, the password is soup>)

 

Well DMonik, part of the reason I'm taking in Jinxed right now and not you is that he's been on this board a lot longer than you have. With you, I'm not sure whether or not you'll stick around. I'm sure your intentions are entirely honorable, but I know how it is with stuff like this. I'd be perfectly willing to take another look in two weeks, once Jinxed is accepted as a full blown admin (or has quit the job because of burn-out, hehehe)

Also, can I just point out that moderating a forum with 11 registered members is hardly a accomplishment that proves you're good at it...?

I can certainly understand if you're feeling a little hurt now Jinxed became a moderator because of your suggestion, but I hope you understand my reasons anyway.

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Uhg, what I'm trying to say is: I was the one who suggested more mods, and I dont see why I shouldnt at least get a chance <edit: and I dont see why jinxed gets the credit>! I already have over 100 posts, which is more than most of the people that have been here longer than me, and secondly... I am on here every day (thats not really that odd, because most people are)

All I'm asking for is a chance :sad:

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<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Dmonik on 2001-12-02 14:42 ]</font>

 

And 3 months more is hardly ALOT longer, in my opinion.

 

You've been here 2 weeks. Jinxed has been here almost four months. The difference is a factor 7 or 8, in my book. How is that a small difference?

Also, posting a lot of messages in a short time is hardly any qualification, though I do appreciate your presence on these boards. Please understand that your being the person who started this has nothing to do with my choice of whom to take in, and when. Read my initial comments in the "moderator" debate: http://www.terra-arcanum.com/phpBB/view ... orum=12&24
Be sure to check out Milo's posts on the subject, as well, and feel free to add your thoughts on the subject.

And just because you're not getting a chance *now* doesn't mean you won't. Also, please note that this hardly helps your chances of it ever happening, because frankly, I'm beginning to doubt as to whether you have the right attitude for it.

 

I did not ask for mod status before because I was not aware that you can just spam Calis for for it, I never did that since I was afraid would be met with laughting disregard. REALLY. Untill you posted, I never had the guts to ask for something like this. So please don't tell me that I stole your idea. Furthermore, I've been here long enough to get to know some people, I became part of the Arcanum commiunity, which I think is essential when a fan is asking an admin for something like this.
The Moderator post has been here for the last few days, If you would have been here as you said you would have seen it. I don't want to drown in self love, but I really worked to get this job. I hope Calis at least suspects that I'm not doing this for the gears on the left side of the screen
Another thing, I'm not planning to let this job go either.

 

fuck it... if your going by how many posts people have, then my chances are nil. and since you obviously are biased towards people who have been here longer, I definately dont have a chance! and you said that you wouldnt have promoted anyone if I didnt post that, so I dont see why you cant give me a chance :cry:
and I think 11 members on a runescape clan message board is pretty good... and what does how many members have to do with running it? as I said, I have experience with running message boards <edit: not to mention, moderating them>

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<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Dmonik on 2001-12-02 14:57 ]</font>

 

DMonik,

With each and every post, I begin to grow more convinced that not making you a mod right away was a good idea. Now let me address your points one by one.

I'm not. Take a look at my post count. Then take a look at how long it took me to get so many posts. Do you really think spam is my measuring basis?

Damn straight I am biased towards people who have been here longer. They know the community, know the history of the board, and have a better chance of turning out to be good moderators. They are also people I know better, and I am better able to judge their qualities.

Let's turn it around. Why SHOULD I give you a chance? You may be a good mod, but why should I give power to anyone if I don't know whether or not that person'll do a good job? Benefit of the doubt? Fuck that. I've spent far too much time creating and maintaining this site to go with benefits of doubt.

Yes, you do have experience running a board with 11 members. What the difference is, you ask? Well, as a moderator, you take care of problems. A board with 11 members who are all in the same clan won't have any problems. A board with 1455 registered users including a decent bunch of active ones and a fairly large newbie influx DOES have its problems. Look, experience running a message board isn't really a requirement. Jinxed didn't have any experience, and I still took him in. I'm just saying that the URL you posted hardly proves anything about your moderating ability.

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All right, let's put it this way.

Jinxed is well known and loved here (at least loved by certain people, and some of those may not even be members here :wink. I've been here slightly longer than him, but only got serious about my posting in the past 2 months or so. In fact, I missed the whole Quethim thing, and for that I'm sad :sad:.

Jinxed though, knows many more people here, has a good relationship with them, and has a good time with everyone. It takes a long time for that to happen, and Jinxed has put in the time and the effort. It's best to become a moderator when you are considered one of the regulars, who posts here a lot (not spam like al did) and is a real part of the community, or people are just going to resent you.

Unfortunately, you haven't matured (on this board) enough for you to be considered for that yet...

 

I didnt say you did... and you dont have to be an ass-kisser, it's not like I had the guts to ask it either... I was asking for another board and I thought I might as well ask if I can moderate it, since no one else here (that I know of) likes the online version <as much as me>