Need help in Morrowind

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  1. Jarinor

    Jarinor New Member

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    Maniac, you aren't that special. You should see the mountains of gear that I have. I've practically filled Caius Cosades' house, and I have stashes all around Morrowind. I also have an armour class of 203 or so. Also, I really don't care what exploit you used to get 300k - I don't call getting something worth 50k or so, selling it for all of a trader's gold and all their stock, and then selling it back to them later a genuine way of making money. If I couldn't sell it straight out, I kept it. I've left full suits of ebony armour lying around because I had no one to sell it to.

    Let's not get into a 'Who's character is better' thing though - everyone plays differently, and I just prefer not to powergame. I don't whether you do or not.

    Ferret, that probably is a bug of some sort. Here's a tip - stealing heaps and heaps of stuff may be fun, but it kind of wrecks the game, or at least I find it so. Plus, it's hard to remember what you've stolen from who :).
     
  2. Rat Keeng

    Rat Keeng New Member

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    Hmm, i've never really understood the point in über-leveling your character and hoarding items like crazy. I know alot of people do it in games like Fallout 2 as well, and it's especially wide-spread in Diablo 2 on battle.net, there's people who have hundreds of characters, "mules", filled with all this über-equipment.

    What i see, is someone desperately trying to increase a few numbers on their screen, or obtaining a few more bytes on a server. I can't really relate to that.


    However, i'd like to thank everyone for all the tips and hints, saves me the trouble of dying pointlessly (or finding the tips on the net myself), i'm on my way to do the first quest for the Fighter's Guild, then i'll go and join the Imperial Army :)
     
  3. Jarinor

    Jarinor New Member

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    Keeng, I don't hoard items for the status. I hoard them because I might need them someday, either to trade or to use. I might come across a particular item in a shop, and trade in a few choice items. Some items are status (read: Daedric :)), but most are there for their usefulness.

    Also, later in the game, you come across an area with lots of...nasty people, but there's a book in that area. It lists all the legendary items in the world of Tamriel, some (if not all) of which are available to be found in Morrowind. Some of these items are crap (Ring of Surroundings), some are incredibly awesome (the Vampiric Ring and Fists of Randagulf are good examples) and some items you can find are better than those listed (the Amulet of Shadows is fucking awesome!).

    I've been playing Rogue Squadron for the past couple of days, so I'm getting back into Morrowind tomorrow. Time to become a vampire :)...
     
  4. Sheriff Fatman

    Sheriff Fatman Active Member

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    I'm actively trying to avoid the bad habits that used to follow me through every RPG I ever played, such as hoarding or exploring the whole of one area before moving on. I finally realised that I was spoiling my own enjoyment. All the time I spent walking around the insignificant locations, checking all the old furniture, etc, and incidently leveling on all the dross creatures, was boring me. The extra items/money/XP I got doing it was making my characters over-powered for the end game.

    Now, I try to hurry myself along a bit, moving at a pace more suitable to the plot. For example, I started the single player campaign of NWN over the weekend, and at the start I ran through the academy to intercept the attacking mages, rather than stopping to examine every stray corpse for useful equipment (I examined a few, though ;) ).

    I think I'm going to enjoy it a lot more this way.
     
  5. gamenut

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    Sheriff, is NWN good? I've been needing to get a new game so I've been thinking about getting NWN.
     
  6. Sheriff Fatman

    Sheriff Fatman Active Member

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    Hmm ... give me a couple more days. At the moment, I'd say it is a really good game, but I'm still in the honeymoon period with it.

    BTW, I also bought Age of WOnders 2, but I'll not be playing that for a while unless NWN turns out be a disappointment.
     
  7. gamenut

    gamenut New Member

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    I've only played a demo of AOW so tell me if that is good too when you get around to playing it.
     
  8. Maniac

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    Jarinor: I didn't want to say that my character is superior. My point was that you don't need mercantile to get lots of money. You don't need speechcraft for a good reaction (at least later). You don't need armorer at all. Athletics and acrobatics ain't worth (and almost all players agree on that).

    I explained it :p
     
  9. Rat Keeng

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    See, i don't consider that hoarding, since there's a reason for saving those items. In a game such as Morrowind i'll probably be stashing quite a bit of goods away myself in various places. If there's a good chance they might come in handy at some point, i'll rather save them than sell them.
     
  10. bryant1380

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    How does the combat work in Morrowind? Is it real-time or turn-based? Also, about the only picture I saw that was combat related showed some dude with a spear or something and he was right up in your face. Is combat just hack-and-slash? Oh great Jarinor, with your devine wisdom on Morrowind, can you please explain how combat works?

    (pays homage to Jarinor) :hump:
     
  11. Jarinor

    Jarinor New Member

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    It's real-time, retard, and actually pretty simple. Draw weapon, and use on opponent until either they or you are dead. You can dodge stuff, but you don't see an animation for it, you just don't hit the other person. Having a high agility helps with this. High agility also helps with not being knocked to the ground. High strength knocks people to the ground (although in my opinion, you should also have to do a particular type of attack - thrusting a sword at someone isn't likely to knock them to the ground, but it happens...)

    Anything else, retard :)?

    Also, Maniac, conventional wisdom sometimes isn't that wise. I hate spending money - if I can do it myself, I will :).
     
  12. tzehoong

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    I don't really like the combat - esp in melee, hacking is boring. NWN shines at this - when the enemy misses your character will deftly sidestep, duck, parry the blow with his weapon (sparks will fly), etc.

    To me, Morrowind really shines at the exploring - you get this feeling that it's a big, big world out there, unmapped and undiscovered, that you're just waiting to explore. And blow for blow the graphics are much better than NWN, though the ability to zoom in and out is a huge plus for NWN.

    the flaws are relatively minor - potions look nearly the same, NPCs aren't very active, you can detect the same voice actors in different towns. stuff like that.


    btw sheriff, what I meant by "don't run too much" was the fact that when you run, the only ability that it effects is your Speed - and if you're trying to get the 5x modifier for STR, AG, or INT then it's a major pain.

    for the ability focus i would definitely choose luck - because there is no way to get a modifier in-game - no skills increase it.
     
  13. Sheriff Fatman

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    As long as you don't have athletics as a minor or major skill, it's all good; running will increase your athletics without contributing to the 10 skills for the next level.
     
  14. Jarinor

    Jarinor New Member

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    I like having athletics and acrobatics as major/minor skills. Mainly because I'm usually struggling to fill up all the chosen skill spots - if I had to, I could get by on just 5 skills or so, especially playing as a warrior type character.
     
  15. tzehoong

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    But the downside is that when you don't have athletics as a major/minor, you gain levels in it very fast, which of course levels you up faster and makes you a target for tougher enemies. My first five levels were 20% athletics no matter how much I tried to walk :(. I felt it was a waste...
     
  16. Ferret

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    Easy way to bypass the athletics problem is - never sleep. At least, not until you've leveled up athletics a long way each time. That way, after running around for about 6-7 hours each level, you only have to level a few times in order to max out the athletics skill, leaving plenty of levels left to raise other attributes.

    BTW, does anyone know of anywhere where I can get a FAQ of all the quests available in each place? (not neccessarily a walkthrough, because I like to work them out myself) I really hate missed opportunities for getting extra items or unique weapons etc.
     
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  18. Jarinor

    Jarinor New Member

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    Check the official forums Ferret. I want to find out if there is any decent medium armour out there apart from the Adamantium Helm of Tohan, because Orcish armour only has an AC of 84, with Medium Armour skill at 84. Glass armour has an AC in the 150's with a skill of 95, and Heavy Armour can get some really high AC as well. It seems that Medium armour is the biggest loser apart from unarmoured, which is a shame, because it looks really cool.
     
  19. Dennis Moore

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    How do you guys level up? I leveled only once before restarting my char, he only got 2-3 in the stats when achieving level 2. The game mechanics gives a huge bonus in attributes to those who use miscellaneous skills, something that seems a bit foolish in my opinion. Do you use this or just level up normally sacrificing those points?
     
  20. Sheriff Fatman

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    Jar would be able to tell you more, ahving progressed further, but in my opinion you don't need to worry abouyt "sacrificing" points. I reckon they expect you to get a *2 or *3 multiplier on the stats you actually use for your skillset. Putting effort into making your character more powerful isn't worth it in Morrowind; the game isn't all that hard with a normal character.
     
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