Lloyd Gurloes' dagger o' finest steel

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When I receive the fine steel dagger as a quest reward from Lloyd Gurloes, I...

  1. ...treasure it greatly, and wield it and only it as my sole weapon for the remainder of the game.

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  2. ...find that it is an upgrade to my current weapon, and use it until I can upgrade again.

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  3. ...give it to Virgil.

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  4. ...sell it right back to Lloyd Gurloes for 10-12 gold or so.

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  5. ...take the dagger and plant it square between Lloyd Gurloes' eyes, then loot his smithy for a more

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  6. ...crash to the desktop.

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  7. ...immediately combine the dagger with my elephant gun to make a blade launcher.

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  8. ...wonder if perhaps a finely crafted dagger would've been a more suitable reward.

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  9. ...am enlightened.

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  1. Nukenin

    Nukenin New Member

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    Early on in the game, Lloyd Gurloes, the blacksmith in Shrouded Hills, offers to make you a fine steel dagger if you can procur for him a chunk of pure ore.

    Some characters are lucky, and will find a chunk of pure ore right away in the Bessie Toone mine. Others are technological smiths, and can smith pure ore from iron ore and steel as their first learned schematic. Both are blessed with Lloyds' most awesome weapon early.

    Others must return after putting the ghost of Bessie Toone to rest, or upon obtaining pure ore elsewhere. For their efforts and travel, they too receive a dagger of the finest steel as a reward.

    How has this dagger changed your game experience?
     
  2. Baal

    Baal New Member

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    I say it’s a piece of crap. Never mind I could at least use crap as fertilizer, or to throw on Virgil as revenge for his stupidity. The pure ore is worth more to me, but the experience is always good.

    Who needs a blade launcher, when you can make a rifle canon?
    I find it funny that the blade launcher uses the arrow graphic when it fires.
     
  3. Dark Elf

    Dark Elf Administrator Staff Member

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    Is it just me, or has the Pure Ore a much larger chance of appearing in the Bessie Toone mine if you accept the quest before you first enter it?
     
  4. Nukenin

    Nukenin New Member

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    I think it just depends on the character (literally, apparently, given the fact that apparently character name, race, background seed the randomization for chest contents and the like). Lugard Bloodstone (the dwarf technologist) seems to always get pure ore in the spider room, and I've had a couple more characters also get a piece there.

    This quest is an example of one that I felt should have had a (slightly) more worthy reward. I think the finely crafted dagger (same stats, just a bit faster and I think a little tech-slanted) would've been a good reward, as you usually don't see those until the big city smithies like Tarant's. Even better would've been a unique item, like say "Lloyd Gurloes' balanced dagger" that did 2-7 dmg, 1-2 ftg, and perhaps halfway between the fine steel and finely crafted daggers speed-wise.

    Now if you always found a chunk of pure ore in the mines, and if there was no other way to get a fine steel dagger at the start (i.e. the starting merchant nor Lloyd nor any of the other Shrouded Hills merchants sold one) then perhaps the fine steel dagger would've been an appropriate reward.

    I've yet to get a gun technologist to the point where he could make a blade launcher (the highest I've gotten Lugard is Hushed Revolver I believe) so I've no experience with that (or elephant guns for that matter).
     
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    Neo New Member

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    I think the dagger is pointless, usually i just get my expereince and forget to come back the next day to get my dagger... then "years" later im is SH and talk to him for supplies and notice its ready.... usually by that time im lvl 30-40 and laugh.


    -Neo
     
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    Bunny New Member

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    I always thought it had to do with the difficulty. If you play easy, you get to level up more quickly, so solving this quest is helpful.
     
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    Nukenin New Member

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    I've definitely done this. :) Nowadays I tend to just wait an hour (or wander off to take care of the bridge bandits, or any other unresolved SH quest) just to get the dagger done with.
     
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