Land of the freak, home of the knave

Wait, does that mean that Obama has to invade America to liberate them and give them democracy?

 

I've heard that they were producing chemical weapons inside the statue.

I've never thought of this before, but why did they use such a Greek/Roman style for a memorial which is supposed to represent USA?

 

This is so bad I feel like it could have been staged. However, I also believe it's actually real.

 

Nah. Oil.

It's a Masonic thing.

 

I'm literally just confused. Is that a monument in America where someone was arrested for dancing? Why? I'm actually being 100% sincere; I can't bridge the gap between the dancing and the arrest in the same way I can between the brutal rape and stabbing and the arrest, or even between the breaking of any certain law that I think is a bit stupid and the arrest. What does the law they were breaking state?

 

Truthfully? I dont think they were breaking any laws (at least none that I know of, but I'm not in the DC area so don't know of any local laws that may have been broken). However, from what was going on after and during the arrest, they'll probably put Disorderly Conduct and Resisting Arrest down for most of the charges. Disorderly Conduct is a BS charge, IMO.

 

Well, I don't dispute that, and I don't see a problem with the manner in which they were arrested, if they were resisting; but I suppose to be only charged with something that occurred during an arrest is at least problematic, because I'd imagine that you have to have given the police a reason to arrest you in the first instance to be in a position to commit disorderly conduct, and to resist, during the arrest.

 

Reading through the comments it seems they were told if they don't stop they could go to jail and continually ignored the park police's requests and demands to stop. Seems they were doing a demonstration without a permit within the moment (which is illegal). If that's true, then the cops did the right thing.

EDIT: You always need to take anything RT puts out with a heafty dose of salt. They're notorious for disinfo ops.

 

I'm a little disappointed. Based on the title of the video, I was expecting a good Rodney-King-style beat down.

These people were asking for trouble and they got it. From the first frame of the video, they were already surrounded by cops. People who are interested in following the rules and maintaining good order and discipline don't wait for the cops to pull out the cuffs before they fall in line.

The three jokers who got wrestled to the ground and cuffed wouldn't have gotten roughed up if they had complied with instructions, but at least they exercised their right to remain silent unlike the idiot who got hauled off ranting and raving.

 

That's one way to clear a national monument.

 

That is pretty much the case. They demonstrated and got the reaction they were looking for.

At about 1:41, I'm disappointed that all it takes to resist arrest is to have a cop yell "Stop resisting" at you. Was he resisting arrest? I don't know, but I'll bet the knee in the back of his neck made it difficult to comply.

I thought I heard something about freedom of speech being restricted to an appropriate place and time. That might be the crime.

 

The flip side of that argument is this: saying "I'm not resisting" doesn't mean you are complying. He wasn't exactly making it easy for the officer to put his hands behind his back. Also, you may have noticed that he tried to interfere when his homeboy was getting cuffed.

These people knew what they were doing, that's why the cameras were there. They were copycatting a group that got busted doing the same thing. See here.

The first amendment is not a license to do whatever you want whenever and wherever you want.

 

Tell that to the American Army ohhhhhhhhh yeah!

 

The Jefferson memorial is a non-public forum? I thought the whole point of memorials were that they were public. I suppose technically since the government built and own it (I assume) they get to decide the rules that govern its premises. So yeah, now that I thought about it yeah, those guys were dicks. No dancing is an odd and kinda small-minded rule though.

 

The rule isn't "ABSOLUTELY NO DANCING". The rule is a broader rule against any conspicuous expressive act with a propensity to draw onlookers. Dancing falls in that category because, "it creates its own center of attention and distracts from the atmosphere of solemn commemoration that the regulations are designed to preserve."

And the guy didn't get body slammed for dancing. He got body slammed for blatant failure to comply with the instructions of a police officer who was placing him under arrest. And it's not like he didn't get plenty of warnings. If the cops decide to arrest you, you're going to get cuffed. And if you don't make it easy for them, they're going to have to make it rough on you, but either way you're getting cuffed.