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  1. Dark Elf

    Dark Elf Administrator Staff Member

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    What I don't understand is how the fuck the yeast could have gone through all that sugar in a mere week. It certainly wasn't one of the turbo versions that should only be used to produce as much moonshine as possible per time unit, it was regular wine yeast. The only explanation I have is that the temperature and other conditions must have been perfect. Or that particular bag of yeast was some potent stuff.

    Problem is, the batch tastes batshit awful. For the first few milliseconds it tastes great, only to be dominated by a rather repugnant taste of yeast. My plan now is to tap it over to another bucket and use the clearing stuff that came with the brewing kit I bought, hopefully that will take the edge of the yeasty taste. If everything goes well, I should be bottling this in a week or so.

    From what I've heard, mead is best after about 2-3 years., But who can wait that long?
     
  2. GrimmHatter

    GrimmHatter Active Member

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    I hear ya. I should've let my brew sit for another couple weeks but I couldn't wait. I tested it and thought it was pretty good. But it's a little bitter though. I wonder if letting it sitting a bit longer would've reduced the bitterness in the first few bottles. It also has a strong "acohol" smell and taste than what I'm used to drinking, but a stronger "beer" aftertaste. I bottled it in 30 750mL bottles and am about 1/3 through them now (about 3 weeks after bottling). I've noticed the ones I'm drinking now aren't tasting as bitter, like everything's been given the chance to disolve and mix well. Plus it helps to pour the beer into a mug so its mixed well instead of drinking it straight out of the bottle with all the non-disolved priming sugar settled to the bottom. I hope yours works out DE. It would be painful to have to scrap it after all that hard work.

    Speaking of pouring, here's what I drink out of for hockey games.

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    My wife got me the boot for Christmas after we watched Beerfest. But look at all that head. I need to work on my pouring.
     
  3. Dark Elf

    Dark Elf Administrator Staff Member

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    That's an awesome beer glass, Grimmhatter! And as soon as I can get hold of a digital camera I'll upload a bottle I'm sure you'd appreciate. :D

    I'm torn about the mead. As you've noted, one week is way too short a time to dissolve everything. If I'd start the clearing and bottling now I'd likely end up with something that would only be drinkable after like five years in a cool cellar, if even that. I need to change my plan.

    I'm thinking about adding more honey to get the fermentation going again, the mead will end up stronger and hopefully get the time it needs to kill off some of the more offending yeast cells. More honey will also mean more honey taste, which can only be a good thing, that's the reason why you brew mead in the first place.
     
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    DarkFool Nemesis of the Ancients

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    My father subscribes to 'Brew Your Own' magazine, and I'm reading one that was a special on mead (I'm thinking of making a blackberry melomel). This is a quote regarding mead on the first page of the article: "A meadmaker must have the patience of a saint. Nothing 'mead' is quick. However, the rewards are worth it - trust me." Brew Your Own; p.35, November 2005.

    I'd stand by that statement, in regards to you "I'm torn about the mead"
     
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    Dark Elf Administrator Staff Member

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    Yeah, I'd kinda figured out I'll have to wait, even though it contradicts my chronically impatient nature. I must find something more important I can destroy so the whole procrastination thing can do it's magic.
     
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    Uh, guys, there's something malevelant attached to this page, I think one of the pictures is doing it, because when it fully loads it's trying to replace my antivirus :S

    My boyfriend's had a run through these pages, but in the initial outset, he say's you're going to brew whiskey, DE, not mead.

    Still, he's cooking up a plan to put together a beer-making machine (I'm a girl and can't remember doodads), plus making his own dark beer from scratch.

    Time and tide awaits!
     
  8. Xz

    Xz Monkey Admin Staff Member

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    Brewing whiskey is an impossibility, in order to get that strong liquors one has to distill the brew. And as far as I know the base for whiskey is brewed on barley, not honey.
     
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    Dark Elf Administrator Staff Member

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    That doesn't mean that honey's got no place in whiskey though. Irish Mist is some of the best stuff I've ever had. To my terrible agony, you can't get by that stuff in Sweden.

    My guess is that Jazintha's boyfriend's got this whole whiskey thing going because most meads use less honey than I do and end up at around 6%, or so is my impression. Mine's going to be a lot stronger than that.
     
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    Well, this one uses hot-wine-yeast, which will, given the right circumstances brew up to 18%, and so is the case for most recipes I've seen. Linky [Norwegian]
     
  11. GrimmHatter

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    For beer, mead, or wine? Or all 3? I'm no expert on what type of yeast you need for what specific drink. But the thought of a super-yeast that can increase my ABV a couple percent is very appealing.
     
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    Xz Monkey Admin Staff Member

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    Well, it's wine yeast so it'll work fine for wine, and mead which is wine made from honey. Using it for brewing beer however, I am sceptical to, as the yeast is of the kind that will use quite some time for the fermentation, and beer generally is supposed to ferment rather quickly.
     
  13. Grossenschwamm

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    For beer, you're best getting an all purpose yeast unless you have a specific brew in mind.
    I found a website with some good brewing tips (by that I mean videos and books I haven't read and don't feel like buying), but I think they're biased, since they only have 3 types of yeast;
    http://www.monsterbrew.com/Cat-Yeast.cf ... B&kw=yeast

    This site has what yeast to use when;
    http://beeradvocate.com/beer/101/yeast.php
    And actually has free information regarding making certain types of beer...I've got it bookmarked.
     
  14. GrimmHatter

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    I also heard about a book called The Brewmaster's Bible. It goes into pretty fine detail such as:

    If you want your beer to taste "this way", use Aquafina bottled water.

    If you want it to taste "that way", use Dasani bottled water.

    If you want it to taste like horse piss (read: Rolling Rock), use unfiltered tap water.

    I have yet to see it though. Might be worth a purchase.
     
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    DarkFool Nemesis of the Ancients

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    Ironically, talking rain is drawn from the same source as we get our water. They just filter it a little. We've nice water. ^_^ Also, tomorrow I'm planning to start brewing a blackberry melomel. ^_^
     
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    I envy you. The water in our little town here in the States sucks. I felt like a douche lugging 15 gallons of distilled water, and nothing else, from the local supermarket back to my house. But it was worth it if it meant a better taste.
     
  17. Dark Elf

    Dark Elf Administrator Staff Member

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    The tap water we have here is pretty awesome. I remember the water in England being so chlorinated it felt like they had drawn a pipe straight from a public bath house.
     
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    Well, sweden has mangaed to get one thing right...


    We have the best tap water in the world^^
     
  19. Xz

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    Sorry to have to break it to you, but Iceland has that,,,
     
  20. Dark Elf

    Dark Elf Administrator Staff Member

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    Iceland also use their hot springs to heat up their homes. The excess water is then pumped to pipelines under the streets, keeping them free of ice at all times.

    Wonder if you could walk barefoot through Reykyavik in the winter?
     
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