Is this right?

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Are we too uptight?

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  1. Smuelissimo

    Smuelissimo New Member

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    I don't want to pour cold water on your divinity, but the ability to have dreams that sometimes come true sounds less like the power of God incarnate, and more like the power of a second-rate character from Heroes. Have you considered the possibility that you're just a character in a TV show?
     
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    TheDavisChanger Well-Known Member

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    Why would I want a crack to fix my toilet? Wouldn't huge cracks mean my toilet is broken?
     
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    I read this thread up to someone putting Gross as God. I believe this to be false, which I think has been established before.

    Xz is the Blue Monkey God and I believe the only God here.
     
  5. Smuelissimo

    Smuelissimo New Member

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    I read your post up until you wrote the word "monkey" and then I got distracted thinking about monkeys.

    Heh, monkeys.
     
  6. Grossenschwamm

    Grossenschwamm Well-Known Member

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    They always come true, Smuel.
     
  7. wayne-scales

    wayne-scales Well-Known Member

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    I still don't really get this all future-dream nonsense...
     
  8. Muro

    Muro Well-Known Member

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    Three weeks ago you had a dream in which you killed an alien. With a kamehameha blast. On the Moon.
     
  9. DarkFool

    DarkFool Nemesis of the Ancients

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    An Italian Man most commonly spotted in Red Overalls, jumping on turtles and always muttering about wrong castles.
     
  10. Grossenschwamm

    Grossenschwamm Well-Known Member

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    Ok, let me rephrase that. In dreams where I witness future events, they always come true. God, Muro, you're like...right up my ass with this stuff.
    Oh, and it's Toad who is always yammering on about the wrong castle.
    The only thing separating past from future is whether or not the majority of people remembers future events. Predominantly, people remember the past, and some people remember the future as well. The future events are taken out of context so that normally when one witnesses a future event, one does not realize it's in the future. I, on the other hand, am learning how to recognize these events that haven't occurred yet. My latest experience was an episode of American Dad. I watched it some time in January while I was dreaming. Then I saw it again just two weeks ago on Hulu.
    I can't see how I can prove to any of you that I see the future, because for one;
    If you're already set in the belief that the human mind can't preconceive events, well, you won't believe me.
    For another;
    I can't explain how it happens myself. It simply does.
     
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    Zanza Well-Known Member

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  12. Grossenschwamm

    Grossenschwamm Well-Known Member

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    I'll prove it some how...until then, simply don't believe me.
     
  13. Zanza

    Zanza Well-Known Member

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    If you stick a thousand monkeys in a room with a thousand typewriters, eventually they will write something better then twilight. Similarly, if you try to randomly predict events, eventually you will get one right, and if you make your predictions vague enough the chance increases accordingly. Similarly, if you dream enough, eventually an event will bear enough similarity to a dream, or another piece of your subconscious, to fool your brain into connecting them strongly, resulting in you thinking "I've seen this before". Some people call it deja vu.
     
  15. Smuelissimo

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    The problem is that memory and cognition are extremely unreliable. They've done studies where they ask people to write down their recollections of a significant world event shortly after it occurs. Then five years later they go back to those people and ask them to recollect the event again, and their memory has changed. Then when the people are shown their earlier testimony, they say "No, I must have written it down wrong" and insist that their five year old memory is more accurate than their contemporaneous notes. It isn't.

    So I can well believe that you nodded off during an episode of American Dad and then saw the repeat a couple of months later. I could also believe that you dreamt you watched a generic episode of the show, and then a couple of months later you saw one that had some familiar themes and concluded that this must have been the episode you watched in your dream. Either of these seem far more likely than your having super powers.

    But hey, I'm a scientist. My standard response in situations like these is to perform an experiment. Why not start a "Grossenshwamm's Dreams" thread? The mods can give it special gravedigging dispensation, and you can note down the details of your dreams the day after they've happened. Then we can all see how often they do come true. And as a bonus, we can make fun of them too. It's win-win.
     
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    I have voted for no, because this place was always like this for ages. Do we really need to chance? Being cautious is just the way we are.
     
  17. wayne-scales

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    Also, the fact that you're admittedly insane doesn't help matters. I've met plenty of homeless lunatics who can see the future; I've even met one who knew that gold had anti-gravitational properties. His belief that this was possible was simply based on insanity and a fundamental misunderstanding of gravity, just as yours is based on insanity and a fundamental misunderstanding of the concept of the possibility of predicting the future.
     
  18. Grossenschwamm

    Grossenschwamm Well-Known Member

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    I am dreadfully tired of you people telling me what I can and cannot do. I saw the episode of American Dad before it aired, then saw it after it aired on hulu. I've seen dozens of movies before actually watching them, most notably "The Birds" by Alfred Hitchcock and every one of the Futurama movies. These dreams I have always center around things that make me laugh heartily; I thoroughly enjoy the dreams, and enjoy watching the shows or movies even more when I find out they're real.
    You may say it's impossible to predict the future, but it's never anything important that I see, it's normally a TV show or a movie. I'm not really predicting anything groundbreaking, just predicting, to a severely accurate degree, the happenings in a cartoon or movie I haven't actually watched.
    Sometimes it's events at a party I go to, or a trip through the apartment I live in. It's not like I'm saying anything important, it's just a weird coincidence. I may say, "Predicting the future," but what I really mean is a part of the future. I have no idea what events lead to me seeing these movies or when I'm going to go to these parties, so, in essence, causality is preserved and I'm not in any way violating the randomness of an unpredictable system that leads to future events.
    I do get Deja Vu, but I realize those times when I do get it aren't really times when I've seen something before, they're just times when my brain confuses the present for the past. When I dream something, I remember it for a considerable amount of time, and then the dream happens and I'm just flabbergasted. Completely different situations.
    By the way, I don't have cable, so there's no way for me to have watched these episodes of cartoons I like "before" only to have remembered watching them "later" on Hulu or Netflix.
     
  19. Smuelissimo

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    I proposed a method by which you could demonstrate that this is really happening to you. Next time you dream about a movie or an episode of a TV show that you haven't seen yet, you can write down the details here. If you can predict future releases consistently enough, then we'll have to take notice. But until then, much as it pains me to say it, I have to agree with Zanza.
     
  20. Grossenschwamm

    Grossenschwamm Well-Known Member

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    I don't expect any of you to really believe me without proof anyway, I just get frustrated. I'll make a thread of cartoon dreams I see, along with movie dreams, and then just wait until they're released.
     
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